Thanos loses this one pretty bad.
This is too much of a handicap match, and pretty unfair.
It's directly in Supermans power source, he's virtually unbeatable in there.
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Thanos can't speedblitz, can he? What stops a sundipped Superman from punching Thanos a million times in a second before Thanos can react? Thanos was at least somewhat injured by a few shots from Warrior's Madness Thor. Sundipped Superman is probably just as strong. Multiply the damage Thanos took by 10 million in the same span of time...
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In the sun Supes was doing pretty well against Cythonna, a kryptonian Ice goddess who totally owned him on earth...and this is even before he started "Sundipping" for even more power.
It's an unfair matchup. Supes will exponentially get stronger and invulnerable while fighting.
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1. Thanos teleports both of them into a red sun. Proceeds to tear superman's head off.
2. Thanos blows up the sun with cosmic energy. Proceeds to tear superman's head off.
3. Thanos takes every blow superman has until the sun dies a natural death. Proceeds to tear superman's head off.
Superman has nothing in his powerset to harm thanos. If thanos can take full-on attacks from galactus, tyrant, and odin in asgard, superman (sun-dipped or otherwise) is not going to harm him one bit. I don't think he's ever been harmed by physical attacks. No one lower than a cosmic energy wielder/matter manipulator has even been able to touch him. No one, afaik, has ever really ko'd him, other than warlock with the soulgem (which wasn't really a ko). Punches and heat certainly aren't going to do the trick.
On the other hand, I doubt superman even sun-dipped can take a single focused blow/blast from thanos. A guy who can ko surfer with ease, and hurt tyrant has massive power output. The sun may be superman's power source, but thanos is powered by the ambient cosmic energy present throughout the universe. Thanos is ALWAYS, as it were, sun-dipped.
Oh, and didn't superman lose the fight to cynthonna even in the sun, but end up being saved by lois? in any event, cynthonna was far weaker than any of the skyfather+ entities that thanos fights on a regular basis. i mean, she was trapped by the sun's gravity...
No tech/No prep is what the title says.
Thanos can't teleport without tech. He's been shown floating helplessly in space.
Thanos has never taken a full blast from any of those guys, what he has taken though is impressive.
Supermans power grows exponentially in the sun in ALL aspects.
Thanos isn't winning this one.
Oh, and as for Cythonna. They used kryptonite. That old school kryptonian equalizer.
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Thanos may in this fight, but he would have to amp up his body to levels where he might end up destroying himself, more cosmic energy than he can handle
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1. Thanos has teleported himself and others without tech. Take a look at the champion vs. thanos thread on this very board.
2. Thanos has fought many beings in the vacuum of space; he is also rated at faster than light speed by the marvel handbook. After losing the IG, you do see him floating in space. If I just lost the power of the universe, I'd probably be moping/weakened too. The fact that I am seen sitting in a chair does not mean I cannot get up from it. It just means I choose not to.
3. It doesn't matter if superman's powers grow. He has nothing in his powerset to harm thanos -- heat and physical blows, for example. Cynthonna was powerful but not even close to skyfather level. . She was trapped by the sun's gravity, for heaven's sake. Even herald level beings (who thanos crushes easily) destroy stars with ease.
And superman LOST to her while sun-dipped, until lois came with kryptonite.
4. Thanos is not Doctor Doom. He uses tech but his powers are not bound to it. He, like a herald, skyfather, or cosmic being, is a cosmic battery. He needs no technology beyond his own body to take someone like superman, sun-dipped or otherwise.
5. Galactus is debatable. But there is zero questoin that tyrant and odin were going all out. (Odin is the weak one of this group, but he was sitting in the source of his power, asgard, and it's debatable how much of a boost this gives him)
Tyrant was injured repeatedly by thanos, and thanos and co were threatening his plan for universal domination. Odin thought thanos and co were threatening thor and asgard. In both instances, multiple heralds were ko'd with ease. Thanos took everything these skyfather+ entities dished out, and dished out some of his own.
6. No one has told a story as to how superman is going to hurt thanos (other than saying he is powerful when sundipped, and citing a storyline where he LOST while sundipped). I've given multiple examples of how thanos could destroy superman, sundipped or otherwise.
7.Superman is extremely powerful. People underrate him because he's an easy target, as the most recognizable name in comicdoom.
But without PIS/CIS, he loses to beings in thanos' league. Thanos fights cosmics and universally powerful entitites, and tosses herald-levels like rag dolls. Superman has little chance here. And it doesn't help get rid of the hate for people to vastly overestimate his capabilities. Can he beat odin, galactus, the living tribunal while sun-dipped as well?
It's virtually impossible for him to destroy himself. It's been stated that complete molecular dispersion is the only way to kill him. ANd i've never even seen him injured seriously, much less his molecules dispersed.
Superman sundipped lost to cynthonna (who was probably < herald level). Even superman prime was still vulnerable to kryptonite. Thanos has no such weaknesses. It's not even clear why he couldn't radiate superman directly with the correct frequency. Thanos presumably has better control of cosmic energy than people who certainly can do such things, e.g. heralds.
In any event, there are many ways thanos could win this battle. Even if the sun made superman completely invulnerable (which is not the case, since superman still got beat up by cynthonna), thanos could just take that power source away. Superman has no such option for taking thanos' power source away, since thanos is powered by ambient cosmic energy.
Thanos is a Matter Manipulator could he not just turn the Yellow Sun into a Red Sun which Superman could not absorb making him just a ordinary Krytonian?
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