No. PIS is She-Hulk beating Champion in a physical contest. What happened here is supported by numerous events in the past going back to the first time when Hulk grappled with Thor.
Without the hammer, the only "option" he needs is to physically beat the living crap out of the Hulk and Thing like he did to the teams of Surfer-Warlock and Maxam-Drax the Destroyer (w/ Power Gem). The only difference is that with the Hulk and Thing he only needed one arm.
And although it was King Thor in theory, without the Odin force, without "warrior madness", and without the hammer, it was just regular one-armed Thor with a beard and lacking what you refer to as "options" he would have through the hammer and odinpower.
So regular thor killed hulk and thing in a "to the death" fight without the Odin Power, "Warrior Madness," Hammer or the use of his left arm. Simple and clear.
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Um... That wasn't really PIS. In order for us to consider that PIS, Champion must've had some ON PANEL FEATS that put him at the level of his speculation. Champion is more like CHUMPion. He's nowhere near what his bio states he is. Let's review what we know about him:
1. Thing broke his ribs.
2. Thanos owned him.
3. She Hulk whipped the shit outta him like he owed her child support.
Those things are all we really have to go by. So, according to his actual feats, that wasn't PIS. Who the hell was Champion fighting for billions of years? Infants??!!! Cause he SUCKS!!!
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Nooo, the classical incridible hulk could do anything, physically, he was stronger the presence, PHYSICALLY stronger, he was he is not shown in todays comics. He had class whatever he wanted strength, he beat the gardener for crying out loud!
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Have I finnaly made it clear that the Hulk can beat Thor?
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The Hulk is a fighting machine that doesnt tire nor use his full strength, he is physically unstoppable, he can regenerate from a skeletal state and has done things strong super hero's couldnt get close to doing, such as brakeing onslaught's armor, and defeating the gardener, he has taken on multiple super hero's and mortally injured them. The Hulk has no limit to his strength.
My conclusion, Invincible...
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