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spiderman vs. the thing

Spiderman vs The thing from the fantastic four. Fight takes plce in an arena/

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This has been done before.


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In an arena? With high walls? Spidey gets webbing? Any objects to throw around?

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Unless this is Iron Spidey, Peter has pretty much no chance of winning here no expression

I mean its like putting him up against the Hulk

It will take Ben awhile to hit Peter but once he gets a shot in its over.

Spidey isnt strong enougth to hurt Ben, just annoy him


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Ok so the arena has high walls to work to Spideys advantage so about 5 suvs for the thing to throw around

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Ben isnt hitting Spidey with an SUV no expression

A thunder clap could stun Spidey and give Ben enougth time to smash his head into the ground erm

Of course Spidey could just hang up on the ceiling stick out tongue


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Actually, Spiderman doesn't really have to hurt his body. He can poke his eyes out during a speed blitz or make him lose balance big grin

But seriously, he's too versatile, and also too smart to go toe to toe with someone who is at least 12-14 times stronger.

If this is a straight fight, then Spidey would eventually have to give in, although his speed and agility do compensate for his lack of strength.

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I honestly don't know I find it difficult to believe that someone who can lift 10 tons (15 with his new upgrades) can't land a powerful punch. For those who vote Thing. Do you think it matters if it is the new iron spidey hes fightin or the classice one.

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I honestly don't know I find it difficult to believe that someone who can lift 10 tons (15 with his new upgrades) can't land a powerful punch. For those who vote Thing. Do you think it matters if it is the new iron spidey hes fightin or the classice one.


Not really.

I mean all Spidey's punches are going to do is annoy Ben no expression

The fight should end in a stalemate though erm

Ben cant hit Spidey unless Spidey gets cocky and Spidey cant really hurt Ben


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Agreed... unless it's an environmental advantage to one or the other.


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Meh, I remember arguing forever with someone on this.

In the end, though, it comes down to the thunderclap. A good one would phase Spidey enough for Ben to take the win. Otherwise, Spidey would jump circles around him all day and eventually probably wear him down.


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Peter's only chance against hulk/thing level opponents is to use PIS. IE the wall falling on the opponent. SP vs. FL was also PIS, as spiderman is not on the level of even the she hulk, and she hulk busted her hand on surfers skin.

It becomes a fight of peter dodges for eternity. and may not be hit by hit. which would allow a stalemate. other than that. thing 10/10.


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Sure, but Spidey knows Ben. His thunderclaps aren't nearly as strong as Hulk's or Juggernaut's. Besides, Spidey can shut his ears with webbings.

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Spider-Man makes webbed claws and cuts Ben's face.


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Sure, but Spidey knows Ben. His thunderclaps aren't nearly as strong as Hulk's or Juggernaut's. Besides, Spidey can shut his ears with webbings.


that would stop the sound effect... but not the force...

and if thing ever lands even a single blow... parkers getting stunned.


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Sure, but Spidey knows Ben. His thunderclaps aren't nearly as strong as Hulk's or Juggernaut's. Besides, Spidey can shut his ears with webbings.


Why wouldnt Ben's thunderclap be as powerful?!?! What the f**k?

Sure he may not be as strong but it would still have the same effect no expression

There is still the force of the clap yes


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that would stop the sound effect... but not the force...

and if thing ever lands even a single blow... parkers getting stunned.


Ofcourse. That's why he needs his versatilty more than ever.

The sound effect of a thunderclap is the most devestating part for superhumans. The force is less of a problem, though it could still drop him temporarily.

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Spider-Man makes webbed claws and cuts Ben's face.


laughing

Or rather those stupid stingers stick out tongue


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Peter's only chance against hulk/thing level opponents is to use PIS. IE the wall falling on the opponent. SP vs. FL was also PIS, as spiderman is not on the level of even the she hulk, and she hulk busted her hand on surfers skin.

It becomes a fight of peter dodges for eternity. and may not be hit by hit. which would allow a stalemate. other than that. thing 10/10.


Hrm. I have to mildly disagree.

First, SM-v-FL should never be brought up. Ever. Yeah, it was PIS, though FL wasn't using his most powerful attacks for a reason they described and explained. It wasn't just straight-up idiocy, and I'd encourage you to re-read the fight to refresh your memory on it (page 1 of the spidey respect thread). No one at Marvel was imagining that he could beat him if FL was going all out, nor did they write it that way.

Anyway....

SM beating FL = PIS. Sure, I'll agree.
SM beating Thing = upset. It's different. Yeah, Thing takes this the vast majority of the time. But let's say he doesn't think to thunderclap. Then, about 1000 slow-ass punch-dodges later, and 50 cars-smashing-straight-into-Thing's-head later (not to mention other stuff he'd inevitably find to use as a weapon in most environments), and Parker might pull out a win.

A rare upset? Absolutely. But ludicrous PIS? No.


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Peter's only chance against hulk/thing level opponents is to use PIS. IE the wall falling on the opponent. SP vs. FL was also PIS, as spiderman is not on the level of even the she hulk, and she hulk busted her hand on surfers skin.

It becomes a fight of peter dodges for eternity. and may not be hit by hit. which would allow a stalemate. other than that. thing 10/10.
Not PIS, but a plot device, if he were in a "normal" environment, say New York, he would find a way to win... it wouldn't be unbelievable at all with his wit.

He could do something with his webbing or anything, he just can't beat them head to head...


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