A gauntlet of sorts. Wolverine takes on the following at full health 1on1 in pure fighting skill. No claws, no healing factor, no adamantium, physical attributes reduced or increased to that of the opponent. How many times out of 10 does he win/lose.
Arsenal
Batgirl (Cass)
Batman
Black Canary
Black Panther
Captain America
Connor Hawke
Daredevil
Deadpool
Deathstroke
Gamora
Green Arrow
Iron Fist
Karate Kid
Katana
Lady Shiva
Mystique
Namor
Nightwing
Psylocke
Red Hood (Jason Todd)
Richard Dragon
Robin (Tim Drake)
Shang Chi
Starfire
Talia al Ghul
Thing
Wonder Woman
All opponents are in plain clothes, have no weapons, and no powers other than physical attribute enhancements, strength, speed etc. and skill-based enhancement.
I meant they win...but I was just kidding you sneaky bastard. Adding more people like that. Who do you think you are? Now my joke isn't funny or aggrivating.
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If your point is to see how he stacks up without his "powers", it's a given he'd do significantly less well, not that he doesn't have the ability to be lethal, but simply that he has relied on his "powers" alot during the years, and has had little use to develop complex strategems.
I just wanted to see how his fighting skills alone stack up against other people's since he purportedly knows dozens of styles and has thousands of years experience due to training with Ogun...
Probably. Pretty much any character with enhanced physical attributes would be far more effective and formidable at fighting if they knew/used technical fighting skills to their advantage.
Iunno .
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I'm saying it's a lack of usage out of a lack in necessity, not a lack in knowledge. That being said, I think it's actually a shame that Wolverine isn't written showing excellent martial prowress more often, instead of taking hits like a god.
Then again the average comic reader simply sees, "guy with webs, guy with claws."
I'm sure he has martial arts/fighting knowledge; however I never understood the notion that he's "master of every style" etc. that some people purport him to be and that's the reason he can somehow fight Namor etc. Same thing with Captain America.
So basically the thread is on an even footing, how often can Wolverine win by pure skill alone.
I think mine and Batdude's lists are somewhat similar. Wolverine is a GREAT fighter, but, take away his claws, and healing factor? He'll be stomped FAR more often.
A better idea for the thread may have been both Wolverine WITH and WITHOUT his healing factor/claws. To compare, I mean.
That wouldn't really give any indication of his pure fighting ability though
With claws is a possibility but then that's technically a weapon, adamantium bones is in a sense armour, and he's facing unarmed and unarmoured opponents.
I just put that to get on your nerves, I knew you would respond as such, .
I honestly believe that since Wolverine is put on an equal playing field with the physical abilites, and ONLY skill is taken into account, that he would win the same against Captain America as he would against Batman.
But, you know we disagree about the respective skill levels of Steve and Bruce.
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Aug 4th, 2006 02:34 AM
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