So Emma really only has a slim chance of winning? Psylocke is that skilled & powerful? May sound odd, but I sorta figured that in the absence of Xavier and Jean, Emma was the next top telepath of the X-Men.
I only ask because I'm currently RPing Emma Frost & we're about to have our first big team battle, and I'm pitted against Psylocke, LoL. But most other forums have the same outcome of "Psylocke is completely immune/Emma has no chance/etc"
Is it really that one-sided? I know people like Rachel has more raw power than Emma, but her "psionic skills & refinement" have no use against Psylocke?
And what would happen if Betsy used her psi-blade on Emma in diamond form? Would she still be affected, even though most bio's say she can't use own or be affected by telepathy while in diamond form?
(I know RP doesn't have to be strictly from comics, but I'd like to stay true to the character's abilities...and here I thought Emma would win more than not)
Emma is good, awfully good. I'm a co-author of Emma RT on that forum, but I'd say her chances are slim.
The best outcome is stalemate\Psylocke win via BFR.
Thing is, Psylocke has TOTAL immunity to TP- unpasseable even with Emma's skill (second to none in Marvel as for now, I think). Also diamond form is the only chance of Emma to survive TK assault and here the only possibility for Psylocke to win is BFR.
Emma has improved her H2H skills a bit, but she's more of a brawler than true MA. And given the level of Psylocke's TK, I doubt it even goes to H2H.
There ARE SOME obscure ways for Emma to put hurt on Psylocke, aka "electryfying" her with psionic lightning etc. but to do that our blonde beauty has to leave herself defenceless against Psylocke's TK. In terms of pure reaction speed Betsy seems faster than Emma given everything.
TP on TP- given TP version of Psylocke- Emma would stomp. In terms of skill she's now the best telepath on Marvel Earth, rivalring Exodus and Xavier who are >Emma in raw power, not to mention "psi-bricks" like Rachel.
TP on TK+psi-immunity=no chance for Emma.
Funny thing is I was just reading the Emma respect thread, and was hoping you in particular Charlotte DeBel would post here sooner or later
Now that thats answered, I suppose it depends on some clever RPing on my behalf, or to hoping that the Psylocke Role-player isn't too knowledgeable Lol
My advice- use obscure powers (psionic "lightning" for example would definetely put hurt on Psylocke, at the most powerful the blast of it has ruined a warehouse (that was in the fight of Emma and Phoenix Jean, though Emma was exhausted and on the verge of madness after that).
That's not common knowledge, as the last time Emma displayed that pseudo-TK was in Phoenix:Endsong (throwing away Kitty). But on average it's potent enough to mess the nervous system of psionically imprevious people (M from Generation X, for example), throw people around or (at its most powerful) destroy buildings.
She can't crush her with TK unless Emma is in human form (which she has to if she wants to hurt Betsy somehow). In diamond form Emma is undestructable unless Psylocke puts her apart on molecular level. If Emma goes diamond, then it's stalemate\BFR victory for Psylocke.
Psy-blade and hand-to-hand are non-factors if Emma turns diamond. Emma's diamond form disperses psionic energy (prime reason why she can't use psi-powers while diamond), so psi-blade most likely does nothing. And if Betsy isn't retarded with her powers, she'll never let Emma close for hand to hand.
It's either Betsy 9\10 (one victory to obscure ways I've listed before) or stalemate\BFR victory again in Betsy's favour.
Where/When was it stated that Emma's diamond form is indestructible? Because that's very new to me, someone who does a pretty decent job of staying up-to-date on the X-Men.
Using her psy-katana/psy-blade to its highest level/output, she can cut through almost any matter. I'm inclined to believe that this includes Emma's organic diamond. I get what you're saying about the dispersing of psychic power while in diamond, but at the same time, it's more of a manifestation of psychic energy than it is a telepathic assault. I mean, telekinesis would still work on Emma's diamond form, and that's a psi-power. So it obviously doesn't completely cancel out psi-powers.
Betsy's TK is powerful enough to shatter mountains. I realize that Emma's diamond form is hella durable, but do you really believe that with that kind of TK power that Betsy couldn't damage Emma? I think she can.
If she can operate on molecular level, then why not? Emma's body was put back together by molecular TK. Though if her flaw still exists, then it's different talks.
Psylocke's psi-blade is the same thing as Emma's psionic "lightning"- raw psi-energy used in blade\blast. that's why the stunning effect.
It doesn't. However, even if it can't cut the organic diamond, it does disrupt the central nervous system. Even in diamond form, it appears that there is some sort of CNS working there. I know that Emma doesn't feel pain when transformed, but pain wouldn't be a requirement for Betsy's psy-blade to work.
Also, I realized that I went back and forth between "psi" and "psy" way too many times.
So for those who care, good news for me I guess, the Psylocke role-player apparently has her with only a little telekinetic ability (Psylocke used what little telekinetic ability she had and mentally grabbed Emma's leg to bring her to the ground.) She also had to consciously put up a shield for a mental attack from me too so maybe they don't know she's completely invulnerable
Either they’re using a modified version of her or dumbing down the RP for me or themselves, LoL
And just so I'm clear, diamond Emma is immune to a psi-blade in the head..or everywhere, but the head maybe?
Last edited by bitca360 on Jul 29th, 2008 at 05:54 AM
They're probably using classic (don't know which?)version (the one that has troubles picking up coins from the grass with her TK)- in that case, have at it, darling. That particular version loses 8\10 against Emma.
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