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Could Superman take them all on?
Superman has it all powers needed to singlehandedley save a universe or just stalemate Superboy Prime.lol so who thinks he clears it or gets smashed>?
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Sep 8th, 2006 08:56 AM |
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Jimmy-Chan
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The team pulls out a majority. Hulk, obviously, is the big gun.
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Sep 8th, 2006 10:01 AM |
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Sep 8th, 2006 10:34 AM |
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breeze85
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I don't think so, Jimmy-Chan. They are all slike snails compared to a bullet and that's gently said. For real the gap is a LOT bigger. They would all be dead before registering a single thought in their brains.
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Sep 8th, 2006 10:34 AM |
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Jimmy-Chan
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The Hulk is roughly equal to Mongul Jr, who gives Superman trouble one on one. Plus he has increasing strength. As for that city ... I don't see any name villains.
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Sep 8th, 2006 10:51 AM |
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Avlon
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Double post..check my next reply. 
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:14 AM |
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Avlon
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Name villains mean very little. It's still a city full of metas. Hulk would not be able to handle a city of metas simultaneously on his own.
In addition, we're talking about a guy who moves faster than light, and can warm up or freeze entire planets without issue. Hulk can be punched into orbit nanoseconds into this fight effectively taking him out while the rest could be frozen easily. There isn't anybody on that team that could survive in the sun or absolute zero temperatures.
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:17 AM |
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Jimmy-Chan
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It depends how powerful the metas are. I could see Hulk beating a city full of Deathstroke levellers. As for light speed, lots of top tiers have that, and they don't suddenly own The Hulk. Superman's heat vision isn't any more powerful feat-wise than several blasts that Hulk has shrugged off before (Surfer's and High Evolutionary's, to name a couple)
Don't get me wrong; Superman beats Hulk. But a huge team like this that includes The Hulk?
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:19 AM |
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Dinkus Mayhem
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Hulk is currently in a world called "planet hulk", and he is kicking ass there. From what you showed those Meta's aren't anything Hulk would have issues with, and they probably arne't on the level of any of the beings on "Planet Hulk". You should really read up more on the Hulk before you discount him like you are Avalon.
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IMO these 5 would probably be enough to beat Superman. Savage Hulk by himself would pose some problems for Superman, and regardless of what breeze says there is no way in hell that Superman would be able to kill Hulk before a thought was registered.
Add in She Hulk and she is a large help here, especially if she is wearing the Jupiter suit like normal, with that on she pressed 80 tons single armed. There is also this little known power she possesses...hanks to training by the Ovoid alien race, She-Hulk can exchange her physical characteristics and powers with the physical characteristics and powers of another being by simply focusing on a mental image of the person and willing the transfer to take place." So in essense, she can replicate Superman's kryptonian powers completely which would make her a much larger threat.
Thing isn't much by himself IMO, but he isn't a loser by any means. He would be a lot of help in this fight, especially considering all the other muscle he would be working with.
Cannonball defeated Gladiator (contested by some, but at the least put him on his ass hard), and when it boils down to it the trick he used on Gladiator could just as easily be used on Superman to great effect.
Nova, wth? This guy takes on herald level opponents on his own (sometimes two at a time) and does well, he would in himself not beat Superman IMO but he would push Kal-El very hard in a fight, add him in with the other 4 and Superman is not going to win here.
Seriously to think that Superman would win against all 10 of these characters is a stretch and shows a whole new level of fanboy love, I understand liking a character but show some restraint and common sense.
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:19 AM |
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breeze85
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Do you often see him or actually any of the speedsters using speedblitz? No. If they don't it doesn't mean they can't. However, here on the forum everyone is fighting at the best of their ability (meaning they will do everything under their power to win. No it doesn't mean they get to fight as their strongest form e.g. Superman -> Superman Prime or Juggernaut -> Trion Juggernaut as, by the way, Horrificus tends to believe.) which in Superman's case would mean getting rid of the team as fast as possible. They are all dead in a fraction of a second.
And Dinkus, a thought travels approximately 30 m/s. Superman at best travels the speed of light to many times of that. It's 300 000 km/s. To Superman it would look like they were all standing still.
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:20 AM |
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Dinkus Mayhem
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That is a complete exaggeration, there is no way he would kill that team in a fraction of a second. Hulk has taken speedsters, Silver Surfer would be a notable example here because he can move at lightspeed and hasn't been able to one punch Hulk yet.
Pssst...Nova can move a speeds faster than light. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is faster than Superman right? Thought so.
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:27 AM |
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breeze85
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Nova can? I don't think so but if you have a proof of that, please show it.
Was Silver Surfer travelling towards Hulk with the speed of light when trying to hit him? Didn't think so. I repeat, if they don't do that it doesn't mean they couldn't. How boring it would be for the readers if ones like Superman would end the fights before they have even started. Here it's not an issue.
You have the burdon of proof why Superman couldn't take this team out an instant.
As far as I know he possesses (at least) lightspeed reflexes and speed.
As far as I know no one of the team is capable of moving even close to such speed.
What makes him not to be able to do such a thing?
Simple physics. When someone or something moves roughly millions of times faster than you there isn't a thing you can do about it. He or it would seem completely inexistant to you.
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Sep 8th, 2006 11:50 AM |
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Dinkus Mayhem
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Actually the burdon of proof is on you, you were the first to make a ridiculous claim that Superman could defeat this entire squad in a fraction of a second. Proove it.
Nova has accessed hyperspace to move at speeds in excess of lightspeed multiple times, I am not going to run off and find a scan for you because I don't really have the time, do your own homework its not like his ability is some big secret. 
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:08 PM |
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superman flew to the sun and back at multipals of light speed... what? didnt know that! yeah thought so! and if he isn't trying not to hurt someone he holds back, his hardest punches so far would knock hulk out of range and into the higher atmosphere (atleast, and im being nice) the rest are all statues as well... dead dead dead dead all of them
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:32 PM |
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:42 PM |
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thtadthtshldntb
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Superman could solo this team if he was ruthless rather easily, he could just slag the planet with his hv in the first nanosecond or so and that takes care of anyone who needs to breathe.
So what does that leave?
Hulk, Nova. Cannonball if he is cannonballing at the time and possibly She-hulk if she is hulked out at the time.
Hulk and She-Hulk cannot fly and would sink down in the giant ball of magma that used to be whatever planet they were fighting on... fight's over there.
So that leaves Nova and Cannonball as long as he is cannonballing? How long can Cannonball Cannonball?
Nova is not soling Superman under any circumstances.
And btw, Superman can move FTL in realspace, he does not need to enter hyperspace to do so.
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:42 PM |
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Bol Gath
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This is taking fanboyism to a whole new level.... Don't get me wrong, Superman is a great character but Hulk alone would give him real trouble.
Hulk will hold Superman while the other guys smash him to a pulp. The fight will end when Superman accidentally pushes hulk to far, and the ladies and gentlemen Hulk would rip Supermans arms out of their sockets (Maybe not like that, but you get my point)
This team wins 10/10
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:43 PM |
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MattDay
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hulk isn't strong enough to ever out muscle superman... hulk was shown having a heart attack after they smash eachother a gooden in the crossover... he pretty much nearly died, being stated by bruce's friend i think he was... and superman was trying to just control and help hulk, superman's feats are immense, going into hell and beating blaze and the demons down there, playing touch and go with gods... hulk dies... read superman respect thread to get an understanding of his prowess when not caring about what he's doing... letting go of his morals basically
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Sep 8th, 2006 12:55 PM |
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breeze85
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Bolg Gath, please tell us how would Hulk even catch someone who is roughly millions of times faster than he is? Have you ever tried catching a bullet? A lightning then? Well, that is very easy compared to how fast Superman is able to move. Oh and I'm definitely not a fanboy, I'm a realistic. You don't even seem to able to understand how fast is lightspeed.
YET I definitely agree if it wasn't for the speed factor we would have a real fight here, possible Superman losing more than winning.
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Sep 8th, 2006 01:03 PM |
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Bol Gath
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First of all: Don't bring up that crossover... It was fan voted. Hulk has done some crazy shit as well. Resisting the matter antimatter "thing". And he didn't even seem tired. That is something that you could have seen PC supes do... Superman may be stronger than hulk at first but Hulk can and will exceed his strength beyond Supes.
Breeze85 Oh I am aware of how fast the speed of light is. Hulk wouldn't be alone you know... The others gang up on him to drive him towards the Hulk. And if he is stupid enough to try to slug it out with Hulk he will lose. And if he forgets about Hulk he will get clobbered. But if he is smart and attack Hulk first he could hold him of. That depends on how angry the Hulk is of course. And if he tries to solo Hulk (it wouldn't be a one hit KO) he will get jumped by the rest of the team.
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