marvel girl... Jean goes phoenix on superman. of course if this is just marvel girl... jeans a nonfactor.
storm- nonfactor
colossus- nonfactor
alpha flight:
sasquatch-could go all supernatural godlike. but would never be able to handle the superspeed of superman.
north star-nonfactor
guardian-nonfactor
avengers:
ironman-could reset C.L.O.C to tell Sentry to kill Superman assuming thats allowed?
wonderman-nonfactor
namor-nonfactor
superman wins.... by a landslide... unless you take liberities with the actual abilities of the designated combatants.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
are you serious they would take superman in a second jeans tk and stroms atmosphere control would limit supes flying and speed ability and then everyone else just kicks his ass
1st, Its Marvel Girl, not Ms. Marvel. Its Jean Grey when she was younger... who is not even close to a comparison to what she is now... and Marvel Girl is before the whole Phoenix Saga... so you can't apply that for this fight.
As for Atmospheric control, you're making assumptions that superman has never flown through a hurricane before... tornado.... The guy's breath is essentially a hurricane. He can fly through space like you bat your eyes.
Superman has shown incredible resistence to telepathy before... possibly having one of the greatest willpowers in all of existence.
The man drop a mountain on his enemies and flies away (out of character but it would work)
The name is Superman. Learn it.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
i didnt say telepathy i know that wouldnt work im talking about telekineses she can move objects and people wiht ehr mind. jean had powerful telekinesis before the phoenix saga. besides iron man guardian north star and wonder man can all fly also. he would be outmanuvered and northstar can move at 99% the speed of light when u go that fast you can ounch throuugh anything. granted he wouldnt tkae superman out with a single punch or many punches but he could definatley all the while sasquatch collosus and wonderman pommeling him while the rest hit him with enrgy attacks theres no way supes could win
The Phoenix Saga involved Ms. Marvel... the adult refined more powerful version of Jean Grey. Marvel Girl was a wimp. Like Invisible Girl was a wimp compared to Invisible Woman.
And Northstar being the only character to keep up with superman wouldn't last long, as obviously he'd be the first guy Superman would put down. You make it sound like Superman doesn't know how to handle speedsters... He's fought alongside Barry Allen, Wally West...
Wonderman can fly by releasing ionic energy from his lower body, he has never shown maneuverability or speed with it. Iron man's mach 8.7 speed (the fastest hes been clock at when he was as extremis at full burhn) is nothing compared to a guy to approaches lightspeed, and does billions of calculations a second. same with guardian.
You're comparing a apples and oranges. Superman is a teambuster. he'd down that group like a hobo downs a bottle of raspberry schnapz!
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
the mans mind works at billions of calculations per second.
He can move at near light speeds
the world essentially moves in slow motion for him.
He builds a mutant gene supressor field generator... this is the same guy who developed in action comics a potion that would give lois lane all of his powers for a day...
He would go and get a piece of artic vibranium.
fight starts, he chucks the artic vibranium at iron man... and activates the generator... all the while using his superspeed to deflect any attacks to destroy the generator. Fights over.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
rather then the current marvel girl.. rachel having recently adapted that name and dropping phoenix... rachel taking the name marvel girl as a homage to her mother.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
I admit in fact it is a very close fight, but only because of the number of people in this fight. Again what is come down is Superman's super speed, which is the reason he wins nearly every fight. A speed blitz by him destroy most of them, the rest would be defeated by full brute force and other various powers. Superman man only takes this fight if he is allowed super speed(which you have done). Superman wins
__________________ GL's are the most overated super heroes around.
Superman is too classic. He is too much of a hero. He is the pimp of the Superheroes. He pimpslaps the people who call themselves Superheroes. Hw invented being a Superhero.
Superman is The Superhero.
These characters combined forces should easily be able to take out Supes.
But lets be honest, no character in comics will probably ever beat Supes for good, because he is the very personification of "The almighty plot device"
__________________
"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
The best thing I've ever seen her do was crush The Fury in a mini black hole she created. That level of telekinetic force could seriously mess up most anyone.
The same superman thats flown through... and contained black holes?
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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