No hammer, no powers (Durok dropper, specifically) for Thor.
No board, no powers (blasts, time travel, matter manipulation, etc) for Surfer.
Classic Thor.
This is just agility, strength, fighting skills, natural speed, and duribility.
They fight in New York.
Who wins (suprised this hasn't been done before)?
Thor is a brawler, through and through.
He has experience to be sure, but he never exactly "flaunts" these so called "skills".
The best fighting feat he really has is in Ragnarok. And even then, he was just punching, kneeing, and elbowing Loki, and Fenris.
He is a brawler, not some Wolverine level MA.
Surfer is also probably more durible (xmeat knows what I'm talking about, don't you?).
I'm posting it.
Surfer (weakened), using skill, takes down Classic Abom (you may know him as the being twice as strong as Hulk, who also in the first appearance, stomped the shit out of Hulk). (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
Yes he put him down with a mind whammy, but he was also kicking his ass before that.
Now I know Souja will say that AM couldn't hit Thor... well, I don't exactly recall this. So I will need a scan, or issue number.
Giving it to surfer. Even without blasts and the rest of his exotic powers, he still can amp himself using the pc. Not to mention that he is arguably the more durable of the two, and has better mobility due to his board. Thor is a brawler at heart, and mjolnir gives him a great chance against surfer normally, but he is going down without it. Surfer 6/10
Surfer has proven himself far more durable than Thor by consistently taking blows from Hulk without even whincing, while Thor has been seriously hurt by Hulk.
On the other hand, Thor (supposedly) is the better-skilled fighter, and he certainly has more of the fighter's attitude than Surfer.
I don't see either winning, but offensively Thor would make the better showing, while Surfer would be more impressive in his ability to take punishment.
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Is the Surfer allowed to amp his strength with the power cosmic?
If so, I believe the Surfers superior durability, and reflexes, tied in with comparable strength (post-amping) would net him the win against superior skills.
I was treating this as if he couldn't, because if he can, then Thor is much more handicapped by not having his hammer than Surfer is not having his board. Surfer could amp not just his strength, but also his speed; heck, he could amp anything as long as he's still limiting himself to fisticuffs.
It wouldn't be a fair fight, IMO.
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Personally, I think so. But I'm keeping in mind some of those posts (I think they're in the Superman vs Thor threads) which point out that Thor ain't no slouch in the reflexes/speed department.
But again, if Surfer amps his own reflex speed even more...
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I'm going to say this in the beginning, I am not basing this off of Characters Feats or Scans or what I've seen of them in battles... I'm purely basing this off of the Characters themselves and what I think SHOULD be.
That Said:
I'm going to say Thor because he was Raised as an asgardian God... thus, he is viking... which everyone knows is pretty much the most warrior race of all time.
Where was norrin raised? Oh yeah, a peaceful planet called Zenn-La that tried to find more peaceful ways to settle things rather than resort to physical violence.
Surfer may have power ups, but without any form of energy manipulations, what training and experience puts him over the edge? He's never really been in any truly physical battles (save hulk... which he got creamed on) to my knowledge and if he HAD... he should have gotten wasted do to lack of experience.
In every encounter I am aware of, Surfer has effortlessly endured the Hulk's strongest blows. SS gets knocked around like a ragdoll, sure, but that's because he barely fights back, choosing instead to ride out the Hulk's rage.
Below, a weakened SS does nicely against the Abomination (before zapping him), who, in his first appearance, beat Hulk.
(Thanks to bigbrain for pics and info)
Again, against Thor, I can see Surfer getting in a few good blows (no amping), startling maybe even staggering Thor. But mostly, it's gonna be Thor batting Baldy around. On the other hand, Surfer won't be hurting all that much.
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