the same captain america that pulverized giant man, and had hulk reeling from blows?
I'm going with the cap on this one.
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I agree with Jinzin (how many times do i do that?). Ultimate Cap has shown that he's way stronger, etc than his 616 counterpart and hell of a lot more brutal and vicious. Steve ftw here
Slade has slightly hurt to my knowledge Wonder Woman, and Cyborg. Ult Cap has impressive damage soak, better durability. I'm not sure on stronger, Slade is a tad more skilled and faster imo.
Meh, they seem to have about the same strength, but I've seen no great displays of speed on Captain America's part. It seems like Deathstroke would be a lot faster.
And as far as skill goes? Neither combatant is particularly top-tier. Deathstroke is below nightwing level in skill, and we haven't really seen much from Ultimate Cap to put him on 616 Cap's pedestal.
For the life of me, I can't understand how someone comes the conclusion that Deathstroke is a top tier martial artist. Every single member of the Bat-family is Slade's superior in h2h combat... hell, both his wife and Wintergreen where supposed to be better fighters then he was... and it isn't like either of them were Lady Shiva or Richard Dragon. Slade is a competent fighter, that's about it, but he makes up for that with cunning and over all physical strength.
That out of the way, Slade takes the slight majority, six maybe seven out of ten.
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Strength: About the same. Ult Cap seems to be a great deal stronger than his 616counterpart, but he doesn't seem to be overwhelmingly strong. Deathstroke has only afew strength feats but I would put both of them in the lower tonnage range.
Durability/Endurance: Deathstroke> Ult. Cap. In terms of sheer damage soak Ican't say I've seen Cap take the damage that Deathstroke did. We'retalking about a guy taht got punched into a crater by Superboy immediately followed by being lassoed by Wondergirl and swung into a building, then electrocuted by Zeus's lightning and still wasn't knocked out. Not to mention Slade has a healing factor that maybe no wolverine's but it allowed him to get get up after bieng shot three times in the chest with armor pericing bullets.
Agility/Reflexes: Deathsroke> Ult. Cap. Deathstroke hasplenty of insane feats of agility and reflexes. Deathstroke hasshownthe ability to tag both Wally and Bart throughout various points in their career. Not to mention Deathstroke has crossed a 30 foot space fasterthan it took Zatanna to say a single word. Also don't forget that Deathsroke's movemnts give Cassandra Cain a hard time. I can't say I've seen any real impressive agility feats from Ult. Cap
Fighting Skills: Deathsroke> Ult. Cap. Even without his powers Deathstroke has held his own against the comibined abilities of both Aquman and Hal Jordan. Not to mention when he fought Batman the first time his powers were acually fading. (part of the reason he passed out after the fight). HE has held his own or beaten some of the best best fighters in DC. Ult. Cap hasonlyhad two solo, honest fist fights, one agiants that Russian Cap during Ult Secret and against that kid with the SSS inisde of him. I can't say how good afighter that Russian guy was but the Kid was just a goatherd and then he recieved soem training for a few motnhs and was able to match Cap.
Weapons: Ult. Cap>Deathstroke. They cary mostly the same weapons (machine guns, grenades etc) the diffrence is in Slade's energy staff and Cap's sheild. Imeanthat scene during ult. Warwhere he dives in the room and takes out a room fu,ll of guys with a single sheild toss is pretty hard core. Slade doesn't have any memboerable feats of marksmanship, thouhg he is still anexcellent shot. (I don't count that crap with the laser pointer in Identity Crisis)
Overview: I imagine that Slade's major concern is to not get knocked out by a sheild toss he didn't see coming. Because with his armour and duribilty he can stand up to most of Cap's other attacks and dish out more. With his superior fighti9ng skills and reflexs he should bea ble to edge out a tough win against Cap in close though I think a longer rane fightwould go to Cap.
Agree. He isa great fighter but not top tier he is just physically superior to most street levelers as well as has an advanced mind. Without his powers Id think Slade would fall some where in the 4th or 5th teir of martial arts.
1st Tei: Shiva, Richard Dragon, Cassandra
2nd Teir: Bronze Tiger, Batman
3rd: Nightwing
4th: Black Canary
It gets kind of hazy as you go down the list. Yeah Jason Todd probalby goes slightly under Dick.
Black Canary a better fighter than Nightwing? Not so sure. Dick actually has a win or 2 on Slade Black canarygot hammered.HellSlade let her kickhiminthe face as hard as she could just to let herknow that she couldn't hurt him.
Yeah BOP#90: HEad Shots. Fight starts with Huntress firing three crossbow shots while Black Canary simultaniously does some sort of flying snap kick. HE sidesteps the shots but seems to go right into her kick (or out of I'm not sure what the artist intended) and gets kicked in the head by Canary. Who says that he let here get that shot so that she could see she couldn't hurt him. He smacks her and she goes flying.
Then he closes with Helena parries her fist steps into her guardand backhands her in the face. Some big dumb guy named Creote tries to jump him but Slade flip tosses him over his head. Balck Canarygoesat himagain but she feints and draws a breath as if she is going to scream. beforeshe can let the breath out he breaks her arm like a twig since he knew the pain would makle her lose her scream. However Huntresswho waslying on the ground stabs him in the calf with her crossbow bolts. This staggers him for three seconds which isjust enough time for Canary to come up on Slade's blind side and jam two fingers into his good eye.
He reels back but mentions that his eye will heal and that he doesn't need to see them to kill them. (alluding to his heightned senses)Their kind of in standoff and start bluffing each other,but Slade is stillstanding Canary, Huntress and Creote are down.
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