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Cool What If Cap runs the gauntlet

This is an alternate version of Cap instead of him getting the SSS serum. Cap got bitten by a radioactive Spider. Cap now has class 15 strength, Spidermans durability and spider sense..but he has no webbing and cannot stick to walls. Cap is as skilled the 616 Cap and has his shield.

He runs this gauntlet.


1. Elecktra with 100 handninjas

2. Spiderman

3. Wolverine

4. Venom

5. Sabretooth

6. Cyber

7. Gorgon (Cap gets np psyblocker but Gorgon cant use his stare). Gorgon has his sword.

8. Wonder Man

9. Hulk

10. Gamora


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Makes it to Gorgon imo


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Makes it to Gorgon imo


Take this into account. Even without spider sense. Cap can sum up an opponents abilities just by looking at them.
http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?...vol301286me.jpg

"For he was an experienced warrior able to size up his opponents with a glance."

Cap has learnt an alien martial art in one day. Now combine that with spider sense, one second before hes attacked he knows where he is going to be attacked and where to go.

Remember how Spiderman tried to catch a bullet with Caps training. If Cap has spider sense he would have caught the bullet and be able to do even more insane stuff. His analytical abilities would be insane and his spier sense would probably be more powerful where I reckon he could do more than just predict one sceond in advance.


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I didn't see the no stare thing so he makes it to Wonder Man.


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I didn't see the no stare thing so he makes it to Wonder Man.


I see him getting past WW as well. Cap 1 ton strength was able to one shot Thunderball. At class 15 strength 15 x10 = ?


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Wonder Man imo is way tougher also can fly


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150tons


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Wonder Man imo is way tougher also can fly


Yeah Cap has 15 ton strength now. He has mad analytical abilities and he can use long range attack with his shield.

Can WW fly without jets now?

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150tons


WW is put at 95 tons....well ok thats his bio. Lets put it this way at 1( ton strength Cap should have no problem making WW feel his punches.


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WW is Wonder Woman WM is Wonder Man.


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Wonder Man- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Wonder_Man


I still think Cap could win. If he can hurt Namor at class 1 strength whats Cap gonna do at class 15. Plus WW aint as fast as Spiderman either, is he?

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WW is Wonder Woman WM is Wonder Man.


Ooops, you know what I mean.


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Wonder Man can fly at subsonic speeds 5 - Subsonic: peak range: 250-500 miles per hour


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Wonder Man can fly at subsonic speeds 5 - Subsonic: peak range: 250-500 miles per hour


Ok well this is what I think.

1. Is that faster than a bullet?
2. Does he use his flight like Northstar where he can incorporate it into his fighting?


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I am not sure I saw him do a flying tackle to Thing. Bullets usely travel at 900mph atleast a hand gun bullet.


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Captain America with Spider-Man's abilities would be cool but I believe Wonder Man would be to much.


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He could literally just toss pickup trucks and cars like a foot ball over and over without much pause.


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I am not sure I saw him do a flying tackle to Thing. Bullets usely travel at 900mph atleast a hand gun bullet.


Which is faster than WM can fly and Cap has reacted bullets after they have been fired. As I mentioned before WM doesnt using his flying in H2H combat like Northstar does.


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He could literally just toss pickup trucks and cars like a foot ball over and over without much pause.


Well Cap at 1 ton strength made his shield go through one end of the truck to the other. At 15 ton strength Cap could probably just deflect the trucks and cars with his shield. Since Cap is faster than WM he could probably hit WM when he goes to lift up a car. As WM lifts up the car or truck Cap hits him with the shield. I can see Cap hitting WM with the shield again and again and again in onslaught that would take him down.


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Wonderman is a lot more durable than Namor, its also very debatable whether he is a 95 tonner, he was touted as being almost as strong as Thor when he first apeared.

In his 90's solo run they were comparing him to Hulk in strength and yes he can fly without his jets.

Its even in his bio.

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Strength Level: Wonder Man possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift (press) 95 tons under optimal conditions. Over the years and through training, Wonder Man is now in the "Class 100" strenght level (Abling him to lift/press in excess of 100 tons.).


Although it seems that particular bio was written by a dyslexic.

He can also run faster than most cars, hes a lot faster than Cap if we're talking pure speed and pretty agile for a big man.

Hes never been the best of fighters though and Cap trained him in hand to hand, Wondermans reflexes are above peak human, to say Caps faster than him is very debatable.

I think he also still has an ionic form as well as his more human looking one, although its been a while since I read anything with him in it.

Cap has he combat skills over him but Wonderman can and has taken hits from Hulk, Thor and Hercules and got back up.

No offense but debating on handbooks and bio's and not knowing much about the character isn't the best way to say one character can take another, even a Cap that can press 15 tons has his hands full with Wonderman.

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No offense but debating on handbooks and bio's and not knowing much about the character isn't the best way to say one character can take another, even a Cap that can press 15 tons has his hands full with Wonderman.


Well im not completely ignorant. I was reading West Coast Avengers for awhile you know, but yeah I know bios arent accurate my point was that as far as I know WM was not as strong as people like The Hulk and Hercules.

In all the showings I have seen of WM I ahve never seen him have strength as good as Thor or Hulk.

Dont forget that Cap has Spidermans speed and spider sense as well. We all know the crazy stuff that Cap can do at "peak human" levels. Giving him spider sense will give him insane analysing abilities.

15 ton is a lot less than WMs strength but at that level Cap would have no problem hurting WM if he can hurt Namor at 1 ton. Yeah I know you said Namor isnt as durable as WM but my point was Cap was aonly at 1 ton strength. For somebody like Cap 15 tons is a HUGE upgrade.

I also remember reading in his bio that he could fly, but I was asking because sometimes people powers change eg Spiderman and stingers, they were one day and gone the next.


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Spiderman is more agile than Wonderman but in a foot race, I would be backing Simon Williams.

Its not just a question of him hurting Wonderman, its a question of him doing enough damage to put him down, I am seriously doubting Cap can hit harder than the Abomination who Wonderman took a lot of shots from and put down.

Wonderman has regulary taken shots from guys like Hercules, Thor, Hulk, Abomination, Gamma Burn (bet you don't remember her do you) Tyrak, Goliath (Atlas) and a host of other heavy hitters and not stayed down.

All these people's strength exceeds WM's durabilty (if that makes sense) Cap is the more agile and the better fighter but hes going to find Wonderman very tough imo.

I'm not even sure if he makes it that far though, no one on that list is going to be a push over.

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