Due to lack of feats, he simply loses. We haven't seen the extent of his waterkinesis (if it IS waterkinesis, it could have been a giant mystical hologram for all we know..) and he hasn't displayed strength, speed or skill that is superior to 616 Namor.
However, Ult. Namor seems to show better resistance to heat since he withstood a full-on torch burn from the Human Torch.
He was speculated to be the most powerful superhuman in the Ultimate universe, wasn't he? Ahead of Ultimate Thor? Hmm...
On his brief showing, he would seem to have a better shot than 616 Namor, but I still have to side with Diana here.
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It was water, and he's also much smarter than his 616 counterpart.
Strength and durability wise I'd say he's superior to his 616 counterpart. He causally broke free from a device which purpose was to contain the most physically powerful meta human at that time. At that time Reed had knowledge of Hulk, Colossus, Thing, Thor, Juggernaut, etc. Namor was also able to easily knock Thing a few blocks with a a left hook, and one shotted HT all the while fighting constructs of the Ultimates and X-men. Basically, Ultimate Namor is a savage.
wrong. i have that comic in my hand and at no point did namor do anything but get his ass kicked by the constructs until franklin storm pulled the plug on power. he one knocked out the torch long before that happened. torch came back however and the ff4 had namor owned until he did his little water trick. this isn't even close. wonder woman kicks namors teeth in.
The water was perceived to be water. Who knows? It couldn't have all been an elaborate spell to fool the FF4. He hasn't displayed the ability to do anything more complex other than making a threatening looking water sculpture....
The most physically Marvel character...on Ultimate Earth. Ult. Thor isn't nearly as strong as 616 Thor. Don't get me started on Juggernaut. Ult. Hulk hasn't displayed any strength feats greater than 616 Hulk. Hell, he momentarily got his teeth kicked in by Captain America.
Punching Ult. Thing isn't a big feat. He hasn't shown to be as powerful as 616 Thing. Nothing the likes of Superboy or even Wonder-Girl couldn't do.
Light-hard constructs who clearly weren't as powerful as the original. Basically he was fighting a bunch of holograms.
One-shotting a 20 year old kid on fire isn't a big feat either...
He simply hasn't shown the stones to take down the likes of Diana, Captain Marvel or Superman.
However, if he shows more feats that clearly show the ability to do so....
It was Water Draco. Speculation is unnecessary as he controlled water twice in the arc. One during his initial release, and the second time during the conclusion.
Notice here, before his release how the waves are calm.
It's fairly apparent that Namor can control water on a vast scale.
Regardless if the Ultimate incarnations of the characters are as strong as their 616 counterparts, Namor still casually broke free from a device that was supposedly able to restrain the strongest of them all. Namor broke free with a simple flex of the arms.
I agree, simply punching him isn't impressive. However punching him across the city to the point where he requires vehicle transportation to return to the fight scene is. Especially considering Ultimate Thing is regarded as one of the physically most powerful beings in the Ultimate Universe. Also, Ultimate Thing is just as strong if not stronger than 616 Thing.
Also, Namor easily flew through Reed's machine that possessed all the powers of the F-4. the machine was basically a replica of 616 Super Skrull.
What makes his feats even more impressive is all were done soon after being awoken from his 9000 year hibernation. It was stated by Reed that his muscles weren't even working efficiently.
that wasn't a teleportation feat by namor. see those lines? they indicate that he flew upwards. he simply grabbed sue and flew to fast for the bots to keep up. there is no teleportation taking place. ultimate namor is tough, but he can't take wonder woman. not by a long shot.
well, i looked at it again, and it does look like teleportation. sorry. still, he's not beating wonder woman. he just doesn't have the ability. his feats are nothing compared to wonder woman. until namor hauls a third of the earths weight, he's screwed.
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