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superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?

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Re: superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

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superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?

black adam punches a hole through supes head.(i wish)


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Re: superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

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superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?


I'm going to go with Supes on this one. Sundipped he was capable of pushing War World at faster than light speed through space (a planet sized spaceship).

People like to point out the Superman vs. Darkseid fight a lot, so I thought I would add this: last time they fought and Darkseid slammed Superman into the Source wall, Superman was not amped up like he was during their fight. If you look closely at the fight where Superman pushed Darkseid into the source wall, not only did he have a sundip, but he purposely pushed Darkseid close to the outside of the sun so that the amount of yellow sun radiation that he was getting would have been tens to hundreds of times more intense than he would be getting normally. That was at a constant level too, on top of getting sundipped right before that.

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I'm going to go with Supes on this one. Sundipped he was capable of pushing War World at faster than light speed through space (a planet sized spaceship).

People like to point out the Superman vs. Darkseid fight a lot, so I thought I would add this: last time they fought and Darkseid slammed Superman into the Source wall, Superman was not amped up like he was during their fight. If you look closely at the fight where Superman pushed Darkseid into the source wall, not only did he have a sundip, but he purposely pushed Darkseid close to the outside of the sun so that the amount of yellow sun radiation that he was getting would have been tens to hundreds of times more intense than he would be getting normally. That was at a constant level too, on top of getting sundipped right before that.
i still think darkseid gets a majority against a reg supes. i think ds takes 6 of 10 against a reg supes. by regular i mean not pissed or sunamped. we all must agree that a sundip makes him very powerful. black adam was very powerful in ww 3. thats why i though this would be a fun vs.

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BA ftw.

Supes has a normal human beings resistence to magic.


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BA ftw.

Supes has a normal human beings resistence to magic.


I thought that his weakness to magic has diminished over the last couple decades?

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BA ftw.

Supes has a normal human beings resistence to magic.
i dont think ba wins this. but im glad to hear a dissenting opinion.

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I thought that his weakness to magic has diminished over the last couple decades?
Depends on the writer.


But on average, Superman has been shown as weaker to magic...


Now whether or not this weakness decreases by sundipping, I'm not sure.


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I thought that his weakness to magic has diminished over the last couple decades?


Yup, which is why he's not particularly weak towards it, but he's not resistant either.


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BA ftw.

Supes has a normal human beings resistence to magic.



But his health and constitution are way above a human..so if a normal human takes 50 points of damage and dies from magicl lightning...does anybody think the same 50 points of damage would kill supes?...no unless its a magic spell which saps his life force(health)..supes will still have a huge well of health way above a normal human

Superman for the win


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But his health and constitution are way above a human..so if a normal human takes 50 points of damage and dies from magicl lightning...does anybody think the same 50 points of damage would kill supes?...no unless its a magic spell which saps his life force(health)..supes will still have a huge well of health way above a normal human

Superman for the win
yes even though superman does have a weakness still to magic. somehow its not as easy as some people would have u think. supes for the win.

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BA ftw.

Supes has a normal human beings resistence to magic.


I know this was said YEARS ago...but it's been proven time and time again that it's not the case. Especially in recent arcs where he's been actively working to reduce that "weakness" by training/talking with Zatanna.

Magic is most effective against him if he's completely unaware. When he is aware...he is far more adept/resistant to it.


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I know this was said YEARS ago...but it's been proven time and time again that it's not the case. Especially in recent arcs where he's been actively working to reduce that "weakness" by training/talking with Zatanna.

Magic is most effective against him if he's completely unaware. When he is aware...he is far more adept/resistant to it.
"YEARS ago"?

It was stated in Action Comics Annual #10 (2007), that Supes is just as weak to magic as a human being... confused

I'm not pulling this out of my arse, just restating what was said on panel. smile


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"YEARS ago"?

It was stated in Action Comics Annual #10 (2007), that Supes is just as weak to magic as a human being... confused

I'm not pulling this out of my arse, just restating what was said on panel. smile
well if this is true then superman still has this weakness but can still beat someone with magic like he has in the past. its not so cut and dry to say if someone possesses magic that they can beat superman. plus in this thread sundipped is quite a boost of adrenaline for superman. i feel ba doesnt go down without a fight but that he does go down.

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Are Black Adam's punches considered magical or is he just strengthened by magic?


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Sun-dipped Superman does to Black Adam, what Black Adam did to PP. yes

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"YEARS ago"?

It was stated in Action Comics Annual #10 (2007), that Supes is just as weak to magic as a human being... confused

I'm not pulling this out of my arse, just restating what was said on panel. smile


Never said you pulled anything out of your "arse." Your claim to his magic weakness however is greatly exaggerated compared to his on panel depictions.


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Never said you pulled anything out of your "arse."
Never said you did. stick out tongue

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Your claim to his magic weakness however is greatly exaggerated compared to his on panel depictions.
I didn't exaggerate anything.... I was just going by whats stated on the panel...


"He is as susceptible as humans to the super science called magic...."

"The chaotic random power within beings like Mr. Mxyzptlk, and Black Adam":

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Never said you did. stick out tongue

I didn't exaggerate anything.... I was just going by whats stated on the panel...


"He is as susceptible as humans to the super science called magic...."

"The chaotic random power within beings like Mr. Mxyzptlk, and Black Adam":

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I'm aware of the issue...stated by the same Lex who was given Supermans secret identity in his hand and did not believe it.

Unless you believe humans can take the brunt of magical blasts that Superman has taken many times. Island destroying magical blast? Hellfire? Magical lightning from shazam himself? Best resistance to Disciples magic (and that was including magic resistant characters like WW and Zauriel), denting Diana's bracelets...etc.

And this is before his training with Zatanna to strengthen his defense to magic...which takes place AFTER that annual.


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