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Abraxas' purpose is to collpase/fold all Reality.
Abraxas collapses UniverseS without even trying, he only needs to get near one.
Indeed, in the arc he collapsed many UniverseS.
Abraxas demonstrated he can affect reality,
withIN all Realities of the Infinite Multiverse simultaneously.
Abraxas actually extracted Uatu's memory, (he couldn't even remember his own name)
Abraxas made Eternity's Totality (the Multiverse) summon Reed to ask him for help.
*off-topic side note* Reed became the next Eternity in the Earth-X Trilogy:
(I'll be posting those scans in my thread soon)
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Which What if issue? Fire, TK, doesn't really matter with the end result.
There have already been some issues with Phoenix destroying an Universe (so it shouldn' be coincidence anymore).
It was this, then when DP destroyed an AU and in What If Vulcan with PF it was said then he would consume reality=universe.
And all was done extremely easily. It was all an ''What if'' issues, but I have not doubt that also in Marvel continuity Phoenix would have no trouble doing that.
And if WPOTC did that, couldn't actually that be counted as actually happening.
Abraxas still takes this.
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Last edited by Xplosive on Dec 24th, 2007 at 04:43 PM
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The end result is the same,
but the manner in which one reaches those results is different.
The Phoenix Force didn't take that "What if" Reality apart by TK,
instead, it began to spread from the city, to the state, to the country to the Planet,
and so on and so on,
until the fire expanded into space and continued until that Reality was consumed.
Nice ... had it just not been a "What if"
No there hasn't. ... Only in a "What if"
"What if's" are not referenced anywhere, on panel or bios,
as though they never happened.
"What if" (it really isn't the same thing)
You're counting on a "statement" made in a "What if"
but then you're ignoring a cat like Vulcan rampaging through the WHR,
killing all the Phoenix avatars , stripping the Force from others,
even usurping the power of the Force, in the same "What if"
Do you know who Vulcan is, or his powerset?
All that talk, including Vulcan's feat is a bunch of nonsense.
The only thing that was done easily was Vulcan's abuse of the avatars and the Force.
That's cool, but for me, until it happens on panel, I can't agree.
Did what?
I agree.
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Last edited by Mr Master on Dec 24th, 2007 at 06:30 PM
Aha, and everything he did, he did it because of his powers?
Vulcan is powerful, but not of highest order (although it was said that potentially rivals Galactus himself).
I didn't see any embarrassment. He didn't embarrass PF (I think you are the only one who sees that way) and only what would happen that actually Vulcan with PF would destroy himself as well as reality, but PF would be ok. But he would do that with PF, of course.
Everything he destroyed, he destroyed because of PF and did it easily.
And, Mr Master, I really can't see how can't you see that Jean allowed that.
Jean allowed him to torn pieces of PF from others. Jean was the one who opened a portal for Havok and Rachel.
All happened so that Vulcan with ''ultimate'' power won't get what he ultimately wanted, being loved.
When he began his path with destroying galaxies and others (Shi'ar Empire, Kree Empire, AW),... it was because of PF.
It wasn't, but I think it wasn't needed. I think, it was just obvious.
How else he could usurped the PF (also tearing it from Rachel)? Why others can't? He still had the full PF, yet, the portal still opened for the two to escape (it wasn't said how or shown by whom, but it's obvious it was by Jean).
Some things you cannot just take only literally and completely what it is shown in the comic.
You know it can't work that way.
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Dec 21st, 2007 11:37 PM
I agree.
