We've just had much more of an opportunity to see what Prime can do, then we have S1M.
I mean,
The only time we've seen feats from S1M have been when he's already drastically weakened from not being under the Super-Sun, [yet the feats he has are still quite uber] -- but even with the feats we know of, S1M's main/only chance here lies in containing Prime via a FV construct of some sort, me thinks // How long that would work is the question.
imo,
S1M takes Prime at IC levels, after a pretty good battle -- but with the Guardian powerup, I just don't see emo loosing.
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With the Guardian Power up...We've seen Prime pwn Mxy to an extent. S1M isn't that powerful. Prime gets the win under the guardian power up circumstance.
Under "normal" circumstances S1M is the likely victor. SMP moves planets while 1M moves Galaxies. Both have punched time in one form or another, both have insane strength, but with that said..1M has technopathy, shields, mind powers,and insane stamina..etc.
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This is certainly a tough match to call. Both have very high end feats, but I'd take Superman 1M on sheer versatility. With so many powers at his disposal along with being on a higher level than mainstream Superman, he could certainly beat Superman Prime if he wasn't holding back. But Prime is not one to hold back and with his aggressive nature, he would go straight for the kill as soon as the bell was rung in this match. Supes 1M would likewise have to use every power he has to beat Prime. Even split of 7/10.
Superman Prime was retconning Multiverses with a punch while younger and weakened, I would say he is stronger, but S1M is so much more versatile, it is hard to call.
HE HAD A REALITY WALL TO PUNCH. Seriously, we do not know what Superman 1M would have done if he'd had a similar wall, probably he would have busted it up.
Superman One Million broke the reality barrier when he was drastically, drastically weakened. I wonder which wall is harder to punch through. I imagine with the Time wall you only have to punch through one dimension (time) while with the reality wall you have to punch through (time/space).
We don't have enough of Superman One Million on panel appearances to make an accurate call, I'd say.
Both are Uber .....both have ultra feats. While people make talk of Prime busting through dimensions, all should also remember than 1M basically punched through the current timeline into the far-future (and did this while totallly weakened, aged and dying). Thus on a power level both are pretty much up there. However, 1M also has other abilities that are beyond kryptonian, such as force vision (or for that matter that little trick he was plying with raindrops, where he used them to hypnotize people).
Also note that in the same way that Sodam Yat was an amalgam of a Daxamite (his heritage) and a Green Lantern (his calling), SM1M is also a combination ....he is not a pure Kryptonian, but rather a mix of a Kryptonian AND 5th dimension Imp due to an intermarriage of the two species in the future. That is why he has extra senses/abilities.
He is faster than normal Superman, stronger, more intelligent (by such an immense factor he is basically at pre-Crisis intellect levels), more powerful, a harder hitter .....and if Superman's dials go up to 11, then Sm1M's go up to 11 Hundred.
Anyways, this is equivalent to a match between Michael and Lucifer ...both are so powerful that the winner would be very hard to call (there are differences, but the sheer forces at play are so vast that definining those differences can be quite hard).
But let us put it this way .....if SM1M and EmoPrime are not holding back, then SM1M WILL win. He can do EVERYTHING that EmoPrime can do (even that reality warping punch can be done if you give someone who can break through the time barrier a reality wall to punch, and the same applies to breaking out of the SpeedForce etc ......moving planets is a SIMPLE feat for SM1M, be it through sheer strength or the applied use of force vision .....killing greenlanterns would not be a problem for SM1M if he was so inclined .......beating up Earth's heroes is something that Black Adam could do if motivated enough, and something that Sm1M could do in seconds ........becoming a herald of the Anti-Monitor is nothing compared to the future intergalactic JLA .........facing up against two Supermen, and later on against Superman Supergirl and Powergirl would be too simple for SM1M .....punching some heroes head off and tearing another' arms off, that is something SM1M could do in SO MANY WAYS compared to EmoPrime ......being largely immune to magic is great, but note that SM1M's genetic composition also includes 5th dimension imp thus it is not as if he will be bending over when blasted by Black Adam ..........and the list goes on).
Basically, there is NOTHING that EmoPrime has done that SM1M could NOT do, and not do better! Nothing.
And SM1M is superior in EVERY SINGLE WAY.
That is why SM1M wins.
One more thing: The original poster said that SM1M would be connected to the Super-Sun .....please remember what that means:
1) He already has his evolved Kryptonian and 5th dimension traits and powers (even without the SS)
2) With the SS sun his intellect and abilities are enhanced.
3) Also note that the SuperSun was a COVENANT (it was not the sun itself, but the fact that the REAL Superman Prime was in that Sun channeling his power to his descendant, due to a struck covenant).
4) What does that mean .....in the same way that the Spectre acts on behalf of the Presence, SM1M (with his powers) would AT THE SAME TIME be implictly acting under the REAL Superman Prime. The extra strength is being channeled from the real Superman Prime.
Conclusion:
This fight can be surmised into the following equation:
EmoPrime vs SM1M+Superman Prime (the real one).
EmoPrime will lose ....and get this ....he will lose 10 out of 10.
Everytime.
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