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EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament: Round 2-3; Papa Smurph vs King Kandy

All tournament participants must vote. Do not abstain. Non-participants/regular viewers must have 1000 posts on KMC forums to vote. Voting is not allowed until the first 12 hours of the match has elapsed.


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Sonia Sato - 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judomaster

Hector Hall - 6 (Body) (Mind)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Fate

World War Hulk - 6 (Body)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Hulk

Amalgam v2 combinations of three characters - 6

Prep time lvl 3: 36 hours prep spent in mystic sanctum- 5

Name:The Amalgam that just kicked your ass and raped your mother x2.

Total: 25 points


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"Professor Strange"

Professor Zoom -6 points
http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/zoom.html

Dr. Strange (current and classic)-6 points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strange

Amalgam Level 1 - combination of two characters - 4 points

BFR (Battlefield Removal): Remove one foe from the field of battle (failure is possible based on plausibility of battle writeup; removed being can come back so long as he/she has the power to do so within 10 minutes) - 5 points

Prep Time level 2: : One(1) hour spent in either a mystic sanctum - 2 points

Knowledge of the opposition level 2: Names and powers provided, but not level of power -2 points

Total: 25 points


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Just a quick summary here:

Papa Smurph has an amalgam of Dr. Fate, Sonia Sato (a fighter), and World War Hulk. He also has 36 hours of prep time in a mystic sanctum.

King Kandy has a two person amalgam of Dr. Strange and Professor Zoom. He has 1 hour in mystic Sanctum. But King Kandy also purchased knowledge of names and power, but not level of power. He also has purchased BFR.

I must remind everyone of rule #7:
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#7 The default is no prep whatsoever and no knowledge of who you are fighting. You must expend points to obtain prep and/or knowledge. Superspeed does not enhance prep time in any way. On the other hand, assume instant familiarity with all teammates. Any damage incurred during prep will carry on to the battlefield.


You can't extend your prep through super speed and make a 1 hour prep appear to last hours and days. 1 hour is still 1 hour and time will pass normally despite yor enhanced perception.


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For emphasis:

"Originally posted by Evangel94

...I am going to clarify power boosting since some of you (i won't name who) are asking me some pretty weird things.

Examples of Power Boosting.

1. An electric character becomes more powerful if they have more electricity. You buy 36 hours of prep, and draft Storm. During the entire prep you hit that character with lightning bolts from the sky using storm in order to boost that characters power.

2. You draft Hercules, the Hulk, and a Nurse. You buy 36 hours prep as well. During the prep, you give Hulk's blood via a transfusion to Hercules in order to make Hercules into Hulk Hercules which makes him extra strong.

3. You draft Silver Surfer and 2 other Heralds of Galactus and 2 hours of Prep and power boosting. You have Silver Surfer drain the other Heralds of Galactus and add their power to Silver Surfers own Power Cosmic to Super Charge Silver Surfer with lots of Power Cosmic.

Note: Building tech from scratch doesn't count as power boosting, unless that tech is used to increase a characters regular native power. Building suits of Armor ala Iron Man or Dr. Doom is not considered amping.

Examples of Not Power Boosting:

1. You draft Hulk, Hulk's Wife from Planet Hulk(Cairea?), and an Amalgam of Superman and Joker and 15 minutes of Battlefield Prep. 30 seconds before your prep is up, you have SuperJoker kill Hulk's wife in front of him making Hulk really mad. You then unleash Hulk on the other team.

2. You draft Hulk, Doctor Doom, 36 hours of prep in a science lab. You tie down hulk with adamantium restraints, and poke hulk with a 100,00 Volt Cattleprod for 36 hours making him mad then unleash Hulk on the other team.


3. Drafting Black Canary for 2 points, 36 hours of Prep (5 Points), and 18 construction works to build a giant 1000 foot tall megaphone on half the side of the battlefield. Which you then use black Canary to scream in the megaphone at the other team.

-Evangel94"

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PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
In this match I will quickly jump to prep

Prep time: 36 hours.
Hector sitting in his helmet, chilling, will detect that he is facing a stupidly powerful mage so he seeks the advice of Nabu. Nabu tells Fate that based on his analysis of the mage that he will not be able to defeat him at his current level. Hector, thinking it’s all Nabu smack talk as usual, then seeks the advice of Fate’s past (Kent, Jared, Eric, Linda, Inza and even Kid Eternity will make a guest appearance) to see if what Nabu says is correct. The Fate’s then get a reading on the mage and conclude that he’s just too much for Hector. At this point, Nabu steps in and tells Hector he knows what he must do, Hector stomps off being stubborn and spends the next day weighing his options. After a day of contemplating Hector finally agrees with Nabu and concedes his body to him for this match and will allow Nabu to do whatever is needed to defeat the mage.

Nabu will then tell the former Fates to draw a pentagram and cast a rage spell (not powering him up by way of rules since the only thing I'm doing is making him extremely mad) on Hector, Hulking him up, probably multiplying his strength 5x's over due to there being 5 mystically endowed people living in the helmet, and at the same time making it easier for Hector to get mad, and thus, stronger. Then, for the last, I don’t know, 8 hours or so, they all combine their mystical prowess to contain him while Nabu does generally evil stuff to him to get him madder and madder until eventually he’s at Post Miek statement/World Breaker levels of powerful, maybe even higher because this is 8 hours of punishment and whatever crazy Egyptian Psychological/Physical torture methods Nabu has picked up along the way.




The Match begins:

From jump Nabu QUICKLY takes control of the completely GONE Hector Hall and becomes World Breaker Nabu. Why’s this significant? Well, not only does Nabu have access to ALL of Kent Nelson’s spells:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...ustillgotit.jpg

(Mordru makes reference of Fate’s prior fighting style and Nabu basically shows he still knows that stuff though scannage isn‘t really needed as all Kent Nelson Fate was, was Nabu with severe restrictions put on him thanks to being in a human hosts body)

But he also now contains a body likely with not only Skyfather level durability (if it isn’t that high now it will be greater Skyfather when I finish anyway) and damn near instantaneous healing but LIMITLESS STAMINA (yes folks, Nabu will not be running out of mystical mojo or straining himself to cast his spells with the mean green machine fueling him)

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...son06/IH166.jpg

Blah blah blah scan scan scan we all know about Hulk's absurdly high if not limitless stamina



So anyway, all this sexy talk of power and I haven’t even begun with the fighty fighty tactics, so here’s the scoop, with World Breakers body and stamina Nabu will first put out my aversion field as soon as he takes control. Remember, aversion field = nulls direct attacks, which means any mystical bolts, punches, kicks, bullets, energy beams, etc aimed directly at me will miss and based on what I've seen, this likely includes mystical spells as well. Always remember the aversion field THROWS OFF YOUR AIM so that the ONLY attacks that hit are indirect ones (explosions, thunderclaps, side effect debris, etc), it doesn't grant me a pocket dimension where only explosions, side affects and debris hit, it just makes you miss, no matter what you do, unless it can indirectly hit, it won't work, this is Judomaster's power, Kandy will probably try to get me to prove a negative, but this is stated facts from Mr. Terrific himself.

Oh and let me add, Kandy has not bought the ability to null powers ergo any spell he cooks up to negate this or to get around it is null

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...rsionField1.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...rsionField2.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...rsionField3.jpg


So anyway, at the start after Nabu has taken over and having put up my aversion field, using this body and stamina, I will become planet sized (the battlefield shield size stretching with me like what Evangel said would happen if Mogo‘s was drafted) or at least make it so that I cover the battlefield shielding the arena from top to bottom:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...son06/STOMP.jpg

Which effectively means that unless you blow up the planet/battlefield, you can’t even hit me, let alone get through my far above top tier durability via increased Mass piled upon my post Miek-Statement Hulk durability. This will also throw off your spell casting and movement ability/speed because of my big ass aversion field which is now covering the entire arena.

Anywho, now that I'm planet/battlefield size, I will then, whipe out the planet/battlefield with one casual blast and I will continue to fill the entire concealed battle area with Nabu level energy attack after Nabu level energy attack and bombarding Kandy with mystic ankh shape rays until it has been confirmed that Zoom/Strange is dead, speed or not boy's going to die and with Nabu behind the wheel unhampered by human restrictions, there's no reason to believe Strange will somehow survive this big time offensive or summons up the mystical mojo to bring himself back to life before the time limit expires, especially given how SUCK his recent portrayals have been and Evangel saying that this is that Strange and it's up to Kandy (which he likely will try to do) to prove that he's at his early 90's and below level.

So summary:
Nabu gets to access more power because Hulk’s body is (literally) potentially infinitely more durable, stronger and um full of energy, then a human. Hector realising his life and probably the life of all his loved ones will be relinquished if he loses this match and will thus have no choice but to hand over the reigns to the much more experienced Nabu. I grow to a size big enough to cover the entire battle field. I fill the area up with AOE attacks until Zoom/Strange is dead. And I haven't even tapped to Hulk's latent affanity towards the mystical arts. ha hahaha ha

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Anywho Kandy here's my pre-advance rebuttal to your silly defense mechanisms:

Vibrate through attacks all you want, you'll eventually become exhausted or eventually slip up and make a mistake via Strange's mind not being adjusted (I don't care what cooky method you've cooked up 36 hours is not enough time for Strange's mind to become adjusted to Zoom's speed especially given the Superspeed prep rules BLOCK YOU FROM EXPERIENCING SUPERSPEED UNTIL THE MATCH STARTS, ha hahahaha ha) to moving that fast and constantly falling on your ass from the big ass aversion field being cast from the arena sized Fate.

Why will I be able to do this?

Hulk’s stamina is limitless (I've never seen Hulk get tired I've seen him sleep because he ran out of rage, but never get tired, even then, his stamina and power output is much much much much much I can say much for days and still not be finished, greater then the human body's of Fate's past) and his healing factor will mend any part of his body weakened from exerting himself to such a great level. Your direct attacks are futile and will miss, the explosions you produce will do minimal damage because I'm big ass all hell and they will be instantly healed from my insane healing factor, you can run but you can't hide forever, I WILL get you, you WILL die, me and Nabu WILL laugh straight to the bank.

BTW don’t do the BFR, I’ll just teleport myself back to the arena from where-ever you throw me. GG Kandy, you and the battlefield and planet we're fighting on lose (nah not really, Nabu can just heal everything). ha hahahahaha ha

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King Kandy has 1 hour prep in a mystic sanctum, not 36 hours.

Just thought I should chime in on some misconceptions.


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It’s me, King Kandy. My Amalgam is called Speed Limit, and is composed of Dr. Strange and Professor Zoom. Now, World War Hulk is no speedster and again I can probably win this simply by “Spell Blitzing” him. But like always, I have a plan.

-Prep-

Okay. I start by doing the stuff I did last match, which is gathering all my artifacts and summoning an army of demons.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...ngearmy11dn.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...ngearmy28pl.jpg

Then after that, I recreate one of the two strangers, Strange.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strang...Sons%29#_note-2

Now, Strange is incredibly powerful, and once was capable of taking on the entire infinity watch. He will aid me in the coming fight, as will be explained. Then, the instant before the match starts, I will give myself a speed boost, which will enhance Zoom’s speed and make him even faster then he already was.

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?...perspeed7fm.jpg

This is important because the bulk of my plan will actually take place on the battlefield, so I need all the speed I can get.

-Fight-

At the very start of the battle, I will locate my opponent with the Eye of Aggamoto, and keep tracing him. Now, everything else I do will take place within the first second of the match. Thanks to my superspeed I can move fast enough to do all this before he can even think of starting an action. Then I will get as far away as possible from my opponent, and will take all my allies with me.

Okay, the first thing to note is that my opponent did not purchase knowledge of his opponent, and thus has no idea who he is fighting. But I know that he has WWHulk’s body, and I know what a titan he can be. But Dr. Strange can kill WWHulk with a snap of his finger. He won’t do that here though, because he’s not that kind of guy. Then I will create 1000 illusions of myself. They won’t look like Dr. Strange though, they’ll look like Sentry. The original Dr. Strange will also disguise himself as Sentry, as will Strange and all the demons.

Then, I will send one illusion over to fight Stack’s amalgam. Now, we’ve seen how upon seeing a big strong guy, the first thing Stacks does is throws down with him for a bit. This was demonstrated in their first match. So seeing a big strong guy like Sentry, he’s going to go fight him. And as he does, the illusion will disappear and suddenly EVERYONE on my side as well as the now 999 duplicates will come out, all looking like Sentry. Now, Stacks will think upon seeing this “Hmm, must be another guy with the space gem” and assume I am teleporting. Then Strange will start firing huge energy blasts RIGHT NEXT to him, but not actually on him. The Aversion field will not protect him since I did not actually aim for him. Also, this will be disguised as Sentry’s energy-tornado. It’s only meant to distract him enough for me to do this:

http://img113.echo.cx/img113/1395/defenders069167ek.jpg

Removing ALL of his durability and strength. Then, faster then his mind can perceive, I will cast the winds of watoomb on his general area, sending him and the ground around him flying at an excess of 1,000,000x lightspeed.

http://img305.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig39sd.jpg

Again, it is neither an attack nor aimed at him, so his aversion field will do nothing. However, things will run into a slight problem due to us being surrounded by an invulnerable forcefield. I put on some sunglasses and watch the fireworks as his character is blown, not even to atoms but just to stray energy. Boom. Even World War Hulk’s body cannot resist the impact, it is the equivalent of being an atom in a particle accelerator, only the impact will be even more severe since he’s moving FTL. But just to be on the safe side… if anyone remembers, I reverted him to banner. There, I win, and the whole time he’s thinking that he’s fighting Sentry with the Space Gem.


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I imagine it'd be tough to invoke spells going faster then sound, wouldn't it and

17 – Power Nullification: Nullify super-powers (only applicable to characters who have the ability to nullify super-powers)

you didn't purchase the ability to remove powers so how are you going to take away my strength and durability?

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One hell of a plan you've got there. I would have a lot of trouble taking it out, except it's ILLEGAL. On numerous levels. I will prove it now:

First off, you have purchased neither knowledge of the opposition, nor spying on your opponent. "Detecting" who your opponent is during prep with a spell is illegal. I'm sure Evangel and Digi would both agree, you can't get the benefits of those purchases without purchasing them. Just how I could not mind control someone just because Strange doesn't technically use telepathy, or hypnotize someone and call it something other then mind control. It's illegal.

Second, you did not purchase mind control, and thus Nabu CANNOT take over your mind. But you didn't even DRAFT NABU IN THE FIRST PLACE. You cannot call on outside help during Prep, Evangel has said this NUMEROUS TIMES. If you wanted Nabu, you should draft him. That's the legal way of doing it. The way you're doing it is just drafting two characters for the price of one, and is i-l-l-e-g-a-l.

Third, what's this with you "expanding the forcefield"? It's not legal. The force field would be GENERALLY larger in Mogo's case because he's ALWAYS that large. The force-field isn't putty, you can't just reshape it to suit your purpose. That's also illegal.

BTW it's good to know that I intentionally was missing your character and only hitting with the blast radius.

Next your flawed logic regarding Hulk's stamina. Magic uses a different sort of Stamina then your physical body does. Show me a scan saying that physical stamina is an indicator for how much magic you can do. I bet you can't, you are just inventing shit. If that were true then the universes strongest magicians would all be big brawny guys. Not so. I challenge you to provide the scan.

So okay, the battle will still go the way I want since 99% of what he said is bullshit. He already admitted that without Nabu, he loses, and since he will not be getting Nabu I guess he will have to concede my victory.


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Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I imagine it'd be tough to invoke spells going faster then sound, wouldn't it and

17 – Power Nullification: Nullify super-powers (only applicable to characters who have the ability to nullify super-powers)

you didn't purchase the ability to remove powers so how are you going to take away my strength and durability?

No not at all, Strange has done it before. I can get you some scans but he often has conversations in space and the like. And anyway, I don't need to hear the spell as long as I say it.

I have not removed any powers, you still have those powers. Hulk has a weak side and a strong side, it's not like everytime he turns into banner everyone says "OMG, the Hulk has LOST HIS POWERS" no, Banner just plain doesn't HAVE those powers.


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-Prep-

Okay. I start by doing the stuff I did last match, which is gathering all my artifacts and summoning an army of demons.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...ngearmy11dn.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?...ngearmy28pl.jpg

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You cannot call on outside help during Prep, Evangel has said this NUMEROUS TIMES.


It is against the rules to summon additional characters from other dimensions whether it be prep or battle; Just making sure everyone follows the rules.


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Nabu isn't taking over anything, he's switching places with Hector.

I'm detecting a powerful mage, that's about it.

I didn't draft Nabu, I drafted Fate, who's helmet houses the previous Fate's who, btw, are all extensions of Hector's power and Nabu, who gives Hector advice from time to time. If you had a problem with this, you should have voiced it instead of waiting to bring up a non problem in the match.

I've already said if I can't be planet sized I'm battlefield size, which means a lot.

Why are you asking me to prove a negative? Mage's get tired through casting magic and Hulk doesn't get tired........ever. Try proving that magic stamina somehow tires you in different ways first.

And you do realise that the most powerful mage's like Cytorrak, Dormammu, Spectre and such become huge in their true forms, correct?

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It is against the rules to summon additional characters from other dimensions. Just making sure everyone follows the rules.

Oh i'm sorry I didn't say that right but like I said last match Strange will CREATE the demons not summon them.


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No not at all, Strange has done it before. I can get you some scans but he often has conversations in space and the like. And anyway, I don't need to hear the spell as long as I say it.

I have not removed any powers, you still have those powers. Hulk has a weak side and a strong side, it's not like everytime he turns into banner everyone says "OMG, the Hulk has LOST HIS POWERS" no, Banner just plain doesn't HAVE those powers.



Strange having conversations in space is cool, but how does he invoke mystical beings going faster then sound?

Yeah and I didn't draft Banner, I drafted Hulk, who's super powers are Strength, Durability, and his healing factor, powers you are removing.

Match won't go your way for the simple purpose that I'm huge as all hell and your 'argument' is bringing up issues that should have been brought up in the draft or even in my previous match and your power removal spell which will backfire in your face.

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Nabu isn't taking over anything, he's switching places with Hector.

You didn't draft him though, you can't get him on your team.

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I'm detecting a powerful mage, that's about it.

Which is illegal, you can't detect ANYTHING without spying, and you can't know anything without knowledge... this is a real slippery slope you're on.

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I didn't draft Nabu, I drafted Fate, who's helmet houses the previous Fate's who, btw, are all extensions of Hector's power and Nabu, who gives Hector advice from time to time. If you had a problem with this, you should have voiced it instead of waiting to bring up a non problem in the match.

So you drafted multiple characters in the place of one? Illegal. If you're drafting multiple people, you have to pay for them. This is an insult to me and all tourney members who paid for the things they use.

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I've already said if I can't be planet sized I'm battlefield size, which means a lot.

Okay, sure.

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Why are you asking me to prove a negative? Mage's get tired through casting magic and Hulk doesn't get tired........ever. Try proving that magic stamina somehow tires you in different ways first.

Dude, you're asking ME to prove a negative.

You have to prove that magic uses physical stamina.

I have to prove that magic DOESN'T use physical stamina.

Which one of these sounds negative to you?

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And you do realise that the most powerful mage's like Cytorrak, Dormammu, Spectre and such become huge in their true forms, correct?

Okay, what's that got to do with anything?


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Zee rules

5 – Mind Control: Control one foe (failure is possible based on plausibility of battle writeup; Mind Control can also be used on unruly teammates with failure possible based on plausibility of battle writeup)


Nabu and Hector are not foes and Nabu is a valid extension of Fate's power as he plays a major role in all of Hector's battles.

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Strange having conversations in space is cool, but how does he invoke mystical beings going faster then sound?

Um dude I already said he has cast super-speed spells before, but anyway the speed of sound is a measurement of how fast the vibrations in the air will move to create sound. Now, if he can talk in space and cast spells clearly his spells aren't dependent on Air vibrations, now are they?

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Yeah and I didn't draft Banner, I drafted Hulk, who's super powers are Strength, Durability, and his healing factor, powers you are removing.

Dude Banner and Hulk are the SAME PERSON. OMG that's like saying you drafted Spider-Man without Peter Parker.

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Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Match won't go your way for the simple purpose that I'm huge as all hell and your 'argument' is bringing up issues that should have been brought up in the draft or even in my previous match and your power removal spell which will backfire in your face.

Remember how back in drafting, Evangel said if you sneaked a character in past draft, and then it was proved illegal in a match, it would still be removed? Anyway, being huge won't stop me from blowing you to atoms by smashing you against a wall.


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Zee rules

5 – Mind Control: Control one foe (failure is possible based on plausibility of battle writeup; Mind Control can also be used on unruly teammates with failure possible based on plausibility of battle writeup)


Nabu and Hector are not foes and Nabu is a valid extension of Fate's power as he plays a major role in all of Hector's battles.

Okay I admit that if you had Nabu, it would be legal to let him possess you. But anyway, Aggamoto has helped in all of Strange's fights, and you don't see me trying to argue he gets drafted along with Strange.


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