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Midnighter vs Iron Fist

Aaaaand...

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Old Post Mar 26th, 2008 10:30 PM
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Soljer stop making spite threads, we both know Midnighter has no chance in hell.


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That would be interesting to watch. Midnighter is rather underrated, considering that he works with all his super-soldiery, speed, pain receptor system, healing factor, and fight implants. Iron Fist, I think, is a better martial artist. It's tough.


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Originally posted by Mindset
Soljer stop making spite threads, we both know Midnighter has no chance in hell.


....sad.

I didn't mean it as a spite thread. The same thread's at Herochat getting some very mixed responses. I figured I'd see what KMC had to say.


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I haven't been there in awhile.

This isn't spite though, I was jk, but IF would win the majority imo


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I'm going with Rand, yeah.


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Midknighter is an Omni fighter whose probably more dangerous than Wolverine. Wolverine would take Iron Fist.

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So you're saying Midnighter > Wolverine >> Iron Fist?

I disagree.


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Originally posted by Etrigan
So you're saying Midnighter > Wolverine >> Iron Fist?

I disagree.


Indeed.

If anything, I feel Iron Fist >= Powered Wolverine >> Current 'depowered' Wolverine ~= Midnighter.

*shrug*


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Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed.

If anything, I feel Iron Fist >= Powered Wolverine >> Current 'depowered' Wolverine ~= Midnighter.

*shrug*


Iron Fist could not pull half the stuff Wolverine has pulled in the past. I don't think enemy of the state; starring Iron Fist would have been as nearly convincing as it was with Wolverine. Any way, Midknighter has been up against far superior adversaries to Iron Fist and survived. I cant see Iron Fist stale mating Apollo or Seth. Midknighter took a kick to the face by a Rogue Doctor; someone who was quoted as being able to eat the sun.

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Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Iron Fist could not pull half the stuff Wolverine has pulled in the past. I don't think enemy of the state; starring Iron Fist would have been as nearly convincing as it was with Wolverine. Any way, Midknighter has been up against far superior adversaries to Iron Fist and survived. I cant see Iron Fist stale mating Apollo or Seth. Midknighter took a kick to the face by a Rogue Doctor; someone who was quoted as being able to eat the sun.


Midnighter has a healing factor, so does Wolverine, that is how they take shots from people who could kill them, that doesn't mean they could beat IF.

A>B, B>C = A>C logic doesn't work.

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Midnighter has a healing factor, so does Wolverine, that is how they take shots from people who could kill them, that doesn't mean they could beat IF.

A>B, B>C = A>C logic doesn't work.


Ok lets have a completely illogical debate then.

I think Midknighter will win, because he enjoys stabbing poo and likes to wear leather. I also note that two I's are used to spell Iron Fists name; so their is no chance that he can possibly win.

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I'm guessing you didn't understand what I was saying.


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I'm guessing you didn't understand what I was saying.


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You be the judge.



Personally I think it's a good fight. I see an edge to MN but I've also read a lot more with him in it than with IF in it.


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I'd vote for Midnighter based on my limited knowledge of both characters.


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Midnighter 8/10.


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This is VERY simple ....and I am very surprised at some of the comments coming from people who know Captain America (huh ....I'll explain) quite well and his fight against Iron Fist.

In this match, Midnighter will win 10/10.

Yes, a perfect score.

This is why:

First of all look at the two characters. IronFist is a master combatant, who is one of the foremost unarmed fighters in the MU (and that is without him even having to use his ironfist/chi-channeling ability). It would be like fighting a Shang Chi type character ....and just when you think you have him figured out, he simply hits you with a flaming fist. A lot can be said about him, but it can all be encapsulated under the fact that he is one hombre you probably would not want to be in a fight against.

As for Midnighter a lot can be said about him, and he does have a very healthy respect thread. Instead of touching on his brutality, his love for killing, and all his various enhancements ranging from superior strength and speed to his million scenario combat calculations to his rather effective healing factor ...... let's just say that the guy (in a nutshell) is an amalgam of Deathstroke and Batman (with rabid wolverine's love for killing).

Now, why do i say that MN wins.

Easy ....look at the fight between IronFist and Captain America. Steve was wailing on Ironfist, and the interesting thing is that even though IF knew that he had greater skills than Steve (he actually said that Steve's skills were basic) the sheer physical capabilites granted to CA by the SSS basically made him beat up IF.

It is kind of similar to what deathstroke does to Batman ....or for that matter to Batgirl (where she couldn't even read him because his movements were like a very loud cacophony from a chorus).

The sheer physical ability that MN has (he is NOT peak human ....the guy is meta. It would be nice if people actually checked out his respect thread and compared it to that of IF) would be too much for IF, in much the same way that Captain America's was too much for IronFist, or Deathstroke too much for Bruce.

Oh ...and one more thing. The moment IF does any move it is over. MN will basically come up with a myriad ways of bringing down the guy.

Probably by ripping his spine out (which he seems to enjoy doing quite a bit).


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I'd vote for Midnighter based on my limited knowledge.

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Originally posted by spetznaz
This is VERY simple ....and I am very surprised at some of the comments coming from people who know Captain America (huh ....I'll explain) quite well and his fight against Iron Fist.

In this match, Midnighter will win 10/10.

Yes, a perfect score.

This is why:

First of all look at the two characters. IronFist is a master combatant, who is one of the foremost unarmed fighters in the MU (and that is without him even having to use his ironfist/chi-channeling ability). It would be like fighting a Shang Chi type character ....and just when you think you have him figured out, he simply hits you with a flaming fist. A lot can be said about him, but it can all be encapsulated under the fact that he is one hombre you probably would not want to be in a fight against.

As for Midnighter a lot can be said about him, and he does have a very healthy respect thread. Instead of touching on his brutality, his love for killing, and all his various enhancements ranging from superior strength and speed to his million scenario combat calculations to his rather effective healing factor ...... let's just say that the guy (in a nutshell) is an amalgam of Deathstroke and Batman (with rabid wolverine's love for killing).

Now, why do i say that MN wins.

Easy ....look at the fight between IronFist and Captain America. Steve was wailing on Ironfist, and the interesting thing is that even though IF knew that he had greater skills than Steve (he actually said that Steve's skills were basic) the sheer physical capabilites granted to CA by the SSS basically made him beat up IF.

It is kind of similar to what deathstroke does to Batman ....or for that matter to Batgirl (where she couldn't even read him because his movements were like a very loud cacophony from a chorus).

The sheer physical ability that MN has (he is NOT peak human ....the guy is meta. It would be nice if people actually checked out his respect thread and compared it to that of IF) would be too much for IF, in much the same way that Captain America's was too much for IronFist, or Deathstroke too much for Bruce.

Oh ...and one more thing. The moment IF does any move it is over. MN will basically come up with a myriad ways of bringing down the guy.

Probably by ripping his spine out (which he seems to enjoy doing quite a bit).


I'm sorry Spetz. But I call bullshit on this analysis. Danny was weakened from fighting the Wrecking Crew in that issue, he had used his Iron Fist technique twice already in that issue. That was not a fair fight, if anything, that fight demonstrates Iron Fist is far above Captain America. He was holding his own against him when he was nearly exhausted.


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