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PowerCosmic
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Dormammu vs Tyrant (Depowered) vs Mephisto

Dormammu has invaded Earth and is trying to take over, but Tyrant has just arrived. Tyrant wants the Earth to feed upon its biosphere energy. Tyrant sees Dormammu and they start to wage an all out war against each other. Mephisto sees whats going on and decides to join the battle.


It's a battle to the finish. Who wins? cool

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Dormammu or Tyrant, i'm not sure... but Mephisto loses every time.


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I've figured that Mephisto would go down first since he is a jobber. If I'm not mistaken, Mephisto got handed by The Hulk during one of their meetings.

As for Tyrant and Dormammu, this would be a good battle. Dormammu has strength that surpasses that of a slightly enraged Hulk, but his magic makes up more up to it.


But I have a question, wouldn't Dormammu be a little weaker outside his dimension? Would that give him a disadvantage?

In a head up hand to hand battle, i see Tyrant overpowering Dormammu, but with magic, this could be another story.

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Um I don't think Dormammu's power is dependant on his realm, after all the realm wasn't even his, he annexed it. Both Dormammu and Tyrant are above Skyfather, but this is really a toss-up. I'd give the slight edge to Dormammu though since he is more versatile. BTW, where do you get that Dormammu has Hulk level strength. He's been defeated hand to hand by DR. STRANGE of all people, not exactly a class 100, lol.


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Yeah Dormammu did get bested by Dr. Strange in hand to hand combat. But I think no powers were involved during their fight.

As for Dormammu having strength comparable to enraged Hulk, I believe it was from a Defenders comic. Hulk and Dormammu actually fought. I've never actually read the comic, but I read a statement. I think it was Wikipedia embarrasment .

The battle between Tyrant and Dormammu can go either way. So I'm not sure. confused

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Well yeah they didn't use magic, but if Dormammu is naturally Hulk strength then he couldn't have turned it off.

I can see Dormammu winning by getting the Mindless ones to fight for him (maybe BFR?)


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Lol that would be a good tactic, but wouldn't Tyrant use his drones as backup as well? Unless his drones wouldn't be a match against the mindless ones.

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The Mindless ones are like living Destroyer Armors.


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in hell, mephisto kicks both their asses. outside of hell, he'd lose first and tyrant would be the one left standing if this is standard dormammu.


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Mephisto loses even in his own realm, Mephisto in his realm is still just a Skyfather. Dorammu on the other end has given Eternity a fight that made Eternity dormant for two months.


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Dormammu is actually much stronger than Mephisto. They had a battle and Dormammu beat him.

Speaking of Dormammu, I believe he took out the combine forces of the Avengers and Defenders when they invaded the Dark Dimension. This was from the Avengers/Defenders War.

As for Mephisto fighting Tyant in his own realm, didn't Galactus fight Mephisto in his realm and won? I read somewhere that Galactus absorbed Mephisto's realm. So wouldn't Tyrant do the same?

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tyrant has never been shown to be able to absorb energy for sustence in the way galactus can. dormammu is AT BEST a relative equal to odin. they were said to be 2 sides of a coin, though odin's feats FAR surpass domammu's without prep or plot device. dormmy was OBLITERATED and his essence scattered across spacetime when he challenged eternity the first time -- AND he was amped. the second time, was pure PIS -- all the stars were aligned, cosmic axis had shifted, yada-yada. AND the whole series was a complete joke/romp by giffen and should never be referenced in any serious discussion.

mephisto stalemated an angry galactus in hell. the only way g was able to escape was by threatening to absorb hell. power-wise, he was equal to galactus. dormmy is nowhere close to that without prep/PIS. tyrant needed FULL power to challenge galactus -- and STILL lost.

based on everything i've seen and read of these characters, in hell mephisto owns these 2. out of hell, tyrant takes it if dormmy is at standard levels. you can convince me otherwise, pc, if you can produce scans of dormammu beating mephisto -- in hell -- sans plot device, or tell me where the battle you are referencing happened.


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Dorm wasnt atmped the first time. not that it matters dorms already beaten mephisto in his own realm.

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dormmy was OBLITERATED and his essence scattered across spacetime when he challenged eternity the first time -- AND he was amped.

False, Dormammu was perfectly fine, just BFRed into the shadow dimension (or whatever it was called.) And he was not amped at all, that is pure falsehood. In fact if you want to play that game, Eternity actually came out of the deal worse then Dormammu...


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AND he was amped. the second time, was pure PIS --
all the stars were aligned, cosmic axis had shifted, yada-yada.

That's actually a legitimate moment of pis, it's not the first time it happens in Marvel.
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AND the whole series was a complete joke/romp by giffen
and should never be referenced in any serious discussion.

100% Canon though:

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - Eternity - bio)


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Well remember that the editor himself stated it was pure bullshit on-panel. On-panel>Bio.


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Well remember that the editor himself stated it was pure bullshit on-panel. On-panel>Bio.

Really, when the editor make that claim?

The editors made fun of the writing styles of Giffen & co.,
but never was it stated that the issue itself was non-canon,
or anything that alludes to it being dismissed from it ever happening.

So, indeed, it did happen, and Eternity's bio clarifies this,
and Umar's 2006 bio also confirms this as canon:

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On Panel artistic depictions + Handbook (3 of them) corroborations = 100% Canon!


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based on everything i've seen and read of these characters, in hell mephisto owns these 2. out of hell, tyrant takes it if dormmy is at standard levels. you can convince me otherwise, pc, if you can produce scans of dormammu beating mephisto -- in hell -- sans plot device, or tell me where the battle you are referencing happened.


I wish I could post the scans, but I don't have the comic. I'm not sure, but the fight between Dormammu and Mephisto should be mentioned in Hellcat #1-3 2000.

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tyrant has never been shown to be able to absorb energy for sustence in the way galactus can. dormammu is AT BEST a relative equal to odin. they were said to be 2 sides of a coin, though odin's feats FAR surpass domammu's without prep or plot device. dormmy was OBLITERATED and his essence scattered across spacetime when he challenged eternity the first time -- AND he was amped. the second time, was pure PIS -- all the stars were aligned, cosmic axis had shifted, yada-yada. AND the whole series was a complete joke/romp by giffen and should never be referenced in any serious discussion.

mephisto stalemated an angry galactus in hell. the only way g was able to escape was by threatening to absorb hell. power-wise, he was equal to galactus. dormmy is nowhere close to that without prep/PIS. tyrant needed FULL power to challenge galactus -- and STILL lost.

based on everything i've seen and read of these characters, in hell mephisto owns these 2. out of hell, tyrant takes it if dormmy is at standard levels. you can convince me otherwise, pc, if you can produce scans of dormammu beating mephisto -- in hell -- sans plot device, or tell me where the battle you are referencing happened.


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