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fascinating, prey tell how WM Thor wins or even gets much of a shot in, against Hulk when bfr is eliminated from the options and when Hulk's spewing gamma continent wide?
what's he going to do? hit him with the mallet? GodBlast? the same attack that did jack to Juggernaut?
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the hell is gamma rad gonna do to an immortal god who can absorb it ad infinitum?
i'm having a hard time thinking hulk could handle a godblast, even in this form . . . a couple lightning bolts put him down in the past. thor could stay out of his range and use his energy attacks all day. no bfr needed.
thor absorbs all the radiation that powers the presence -- someone who has gone toe-to-toe with QUASAR. there is no logical reason at all that thor couldn't do EXACTLY the same thing to ANY version of hulk.
Surfer will outlast the Asgardians, out live them. they're only superficially immortal, Surfer's got a bigger, badder and better "god" behind him - Galactus!
Sakaar was a planet that was more or less destroyed by the warpcore breach, Hulk didn't even feel it.
and Hulk has way more strength and power than Thor, so much so that his mere steps could break the world. that's the energy that he unleashes without really forcing himself to.
it's ridiculous to think that Thor's somehow going to be immune to that level of energy, when Surfer's hurt Thor with blasts of energy, when other characters have too.
and how will Thor escape the Hulk's gamma output, it easily spanned a continent and was affecting every hero there, as well as buildings and helicopters... it is omni-directional.
Hulk generates his own gamma radiation, it doesn't exist outside of Hulk so Thor would basically only be absorbing that portion of the gamma that Hulk expels, and even then, Thor isn't going to be able to both absorb the energies coming out of Hulk as well as fight and dodge Hulk at the same time.
Surfer only manages to siphon gamma from Hulk because Surfer is durable enough to just stand there and take a lot of Hulk's attacks without effect.
Hulk has gone toe to toe with Onslaught, I think that trumps WM Thor and Quasar by a good margin.
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so ss needs to be getting struck by hulk to drain him? funny, i thought he could just, who know . . . FLY and drain him! or hover out of his reach! neither ss OR thor need to ever be HIT by hulk.
and btw -- mjollnir>>ss at absorbing energy. we've SEEN ss ready to explode/driven mad from absorbing energy. thor's hammer otoh has absorbed the energy of a CELESTIAL null bomb. the bomb had enough power to destroy a friggin GALAXY.
notice how the absorbed energy was released to reignite a SUN! and he did that in SECONDS.
and you think somehow he'd have trouble draining hulk, or wading into his gamma rays when thor has stood inside a sun himself?? please . . .
you have absolutely no rational way to explain away the fact that thor could simply hover out of hulk's range and drain him dry of gamma energy in seconds. end of fight. everytime.
yes alternate reality, but still Thor's a God gone WM and Hulk's just using more of that infinite power source.
more importantly, Hulk has absorbed and expelled TWO UNIVERSES worth of energy, he's a friggin' nexus of universes. galaxies are quite piddlingly small in comparison.
can you show me the scan of the galaxy destroying energies that Thor's hammer absorbs, I mean actual proof not hyperbole?
Nova's reignited a dead sun, Surfer's more than capable and Surfer has absorbed the energies of a friggin' Universal/Dimensional God.
so until I see something more definitive I'll stand by Surfer >>> Thor in terms of energy absorption and emission.
Hulk's gone through black holes without ill effect but the fact still remains there is a level of energy that would have effect, it's just ridiculously high.
in the past Thor was almost killed (according to himself) by a mere warning blast from Surfer, so there's plenty of reason to believe that blasts/energy releases of sufficient power (and given Hulk has no limits, that would not be a problem for him) Thor would die.
now turning to what Thor could possibly do to Hulk, if bfr is removed, I don't see him being even close to Zom/Strange in magical/physical power and I doubt he's that much more powerful than Sentry when it comes to energy attacks.
Hulk has an infinite amount of energy, I've seen Mjolnir max out and fail to achieve anything significant with a fairly pedestrian foe (Juggernaut) whilst Onslaught and War Hulk both humiliated that same foe.
Hulk at this state is just stupendously more powerful than the Hulk that took both of them out, I just don't see WM Thor surviving this.
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