Yes he is Guy Doom showed that when he stole Galactus powers doing the secret wars, Reality wars been warped around doom by his thoughts.
Well Tenebrous I'm sure will be here.
We are yes
As for the battle standard galactus is difficult to make a accurate judgement from, The standard Galactus can either get his ass kicked by Thing ore causing multiversal destruction in a battle with Agamotto which none of them was taking very serious. Galan said that Until we see a Standard Galactus performing that Feat ore something close to it he would say Kubik, I have never seen the Celestials perform any feat that is close to what Kubik performed if it wasn't for Kubik own words I would place him above the Celestials too. I will say that I haven't seen many impressive feats from the Watchers on the scope of the Celestials yet they are widely regarded as roughly equals with a slight edge to the single Celestial against the Single Watcher yet no feats that place them close to Kubik. We have however seen Galactus destroy a watcher without much difficulty I know this sounds like abc logic and I admit that it's partial abc logic, but I will like to remind that Galactus have showed that he can absorb a entire dimension Mephistos to be exact, and I would like to make a second observation that it was Galactus with Gamora as a scapel that managed to break the Hold Magus had over Eternity with five Cosmic Cubes, and the Cosmic cubes are more powerful then the sentient cubes and he broked five of those power. Now that is imo more impressive then Kubik warping a (pocket???) universe.
Celestials>Watchers. IMO, Celestials by a wide margin
Uatu seemed powerless when the Monolith Gatherer arrived and we all know happened when the Celestials and Watchers faught. Exitar arrived and he killed the large bald Watcher
Yes as a combined Race then the margin expand, but a single celestial against a single Watcher should be close with a win to the Celestial.
remember that he couldn't interven even if he wanted
After Gathering his energy for Eons to destroy the entire race which more ore less was gathered on the same Planet and yet he had to gather energy for Eons, It speaks volume for what it takes to defeat the watchers But the war would undoubtebly have ended with a win to the Celestials if Sue hadn't destroyed Exitar.
Guy, for some reason, I KNEW you'd mention the "bald watcher" LOL
Anyway....
....Kubik has stated Celestials>>Kubik, Kosmos, Glorian, and the other Cube Beings...
...Kubik also told Kosmos, during Kubik's cosmology lesson, that the Celestials that Kosmos thought she remembered when she battled them as the beyonder, were mere shadows that were sent by "The Great Powers." However, "they" (ambiguous "they"..may refer to the Celestials that were sent by the Great Powers, or the Great Powers themselves) sometimes deign to interact with such insignificant creatures such as themselves (meaning, Kubik and Kosmos)
....Next few pages after that, Kubik reveals who the Great Powers are....Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos, Master Order, Eternity...and...Big G
so if we go by those scans......it's Big G.
Feat-wise, G has never reached into some other cosmic being's beer gut and broke out a sphere-sized universe.
Cosmic containment units>Cosmic cube beings...like Utrigita said Eternity was catatonic from the power of 5 containment units...G freed him using Gamora as a tool. Magus blew up G's ship with his 5 containment units, killing G. Big G reconstituted himself.
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"It is unwise to battle the Power Cosmic." - Silver Surfer
I suppose this means all of 616's Mankind will become Gods unto themselves,
their own UniverseS,
where time-space is directed by they themselves,
time-space may even be meaningless,
as conceptual ideas will be dependent,
on the Human God that manages his/her corner of infinity.
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