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What if The Beyonder and Classic Molecule Man were Never retconned?

Would the LT be as powerful as he is today with a different Boss and Molecule Man over him?

Would he have been able to accomlish His feats?

Would Scathan even been his equal?

Would The Alien Entity or MJJ or HOM Wanda have ever done any of the things they did with The Beyonder and Classic Molecule Man running around?

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The Beyonder would be TOAA. Monecule Man would change nothing since he would live in peace not abusing his powers.

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The Beyonder would be TOAA. Monecule Man would change nothing since he would live in peace not abusing his powers.


So then there would be no LT? Or the Beyonder would have had to fight the LT's boss for control of the Multiverse correct? Since the LT is his creation right? And the Molecule Man wouldn't have been at peace. He would have prevented Wanda from releasing the Chaos wave, if he were more powerful than she. Isn't he a mutant? He wouldn't have went for the Whole HOM event.

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LT only answers to the TOAA, the writers :/

Beyonder could never become the TOAA.


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LT only answers to the TOAA, the writers :/

Beyonder could never become the TOAA.

He actually represented Jim Starlin in the comics.

"Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers have over the comics" Or something among those lines.

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He actually represented Jim Starlin in the comics.

"Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers have over the comics" Or something among those lines.


I thought the TOAA was Jack Kirby or Stan ?


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I thought the TOAA was Jack Kirby or Stan ?

No, simply the staff. Current TOAA would be Quasada.

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No, simply the staff. Current TOAA would be Quasada.


So then the LT would have NEVER done the things has done since the Retcon simply because the beyonder was around. And how could the Beyonder represent the staff or writers when he too, was under the control of the writers? He would have had to over rule the LT's true boss.

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So then the LT would have NEVER done the things has done since the Retcon simply because the beyonder was around. And how could the Beyonder represent the staff or writers when he too, was under the control of the writers? He would have had to over rule the LT's true boss.

The Living Tribunal greatest feat to date dates back to 1996 (holding two Megaverses.) That doesn't mean that he's weaker now than he was 1996.
He's as strong as ever ...

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The Living Tribunal greatest feat to date dates back to 1996 (holding two Megaverses.) That doesn't mean that he's weaker now than he was 1996.
He's as strong as ever ...

Yes, only becuz his boss, the TOAA wants him to be.

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beyonder would still have vanished, MM directed his energy to great a new multiverse, but it wouldn't change alot of facts about the Alien Entity, MJJ and HoM Wanda, just because the Beyonder and the MM was still around and above LT it doesn't mean that they would have interfered, LT didn't do it with the Chaos Wave and didn't do it when MJJ would have warped the Omniverse. So powerful beings as MM and Beyonder would rarely be taken into active use by the writer, imo there use would more ore less stop when the Writer stopped being Jim Shooter.

but to answer you questions.

Yes the LT would he would still answer only to TOAA, but there would be two others that possessed greater power then him don't mean he would answer to them, he doesn't answer to Scathan for instance.

Yes.

Yes, it was still the writer that made Scathan the equal of LT.

Has been answered, Yes they would.

EDIT: IMO of cause.


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LT is just crystallised urine with a veil anyway.

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also, where does roma the supposed "omniversal" guardian stand in all this. hes technically above LT isnt he?

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I'm pretty sure Roma is a she....


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Roma is nowhere near the LT.


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why do you say that, LT is the multiversal guardian while roma is the omniversal guardian{allegedly}. roma shud be bigger in either case.

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Lt guards over every multiverse simultaneously. He is omniversal.


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LT is just crystallised urine with a veil anyway.
Nah the Lt is a badass that oversees the multiverse. Dont hate him because he is that damn powerful.


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I personally don't like the LT...

Beyonder wouldn't really interfere I don't think, MM might of stopped MJJ or Wanda, Beyonder prolly wouldn't care, as he would be too busy getting a BJ from hookers who he paid by curing their AIDS.


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Lt guards over every multiverse simultaneously. He is omniversal.


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Nah the Lt is a badass that oversees the multiverse. Dont hate him because he is that damn powerful.


wud u guys make up your MIND already. lol. king kandy, there is only one multiverse in marvel. the marvel reality is a megaverse containing a single multiverse, a beyond realm , a void and various other minor realms outside the multiverse. there is no such thing as MARVEL omniverse, omni means ALL, omniverse is EVERY reality including our physical one adn every media and company combined. it only appears in amalgams. marvel does not have legal power over realms other than its own. hence a statement in non amalgam stating OMNIversal power is just a senseless statement with no substance to it. LT has always been the MULTIVERSAL guardian. conserving balance and portecting the single multiverse in marvel. that is it. LT guards over every UNIVERSE simultaneously, the wrest is inconcistancy and hyperbole.

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