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Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

Ok, as i said in the title, this is the official Superman Vs WWH thread... i'll merge any other that are needed, but i dont want to see any Superman vs wwh stuff outside this thread unless its team matches or under very different circumstances...

All Superman Vs WWH arguments go in here, not in other threads... thx.

So anyways:

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Originally posted by carver9
and that is complete bs that he knocked out a guy that once one shotted him and walked through all of his punches. Sounds like bad writing to me.


you want to claim bad writing while hyping up wwh? erm

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He did freeze diana but she effortlessly got out of it with no problem and remember hulk durability and strength is >> diana.


easily got out of it? he could have shattered her if he'd wanted...

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he might did kill solomon grundy but again thats nothing special since batman has hammered solomon on so many of occasions. If batman mere strength can ko solomon grundy more then once then superman strength shouldnt be a problem.


solomon grundy can be batman level, or he can smack around alan scott, this one was the latter... as rorschach said:

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Do you know how Grundy's powers work? Every time he comes back from the dead his strength, durability, and, intelligence changes. That's why Batman can take him out in one comic, and in another comic he's taking on the JSA. The Grundy that Superman killed wasn't one that Batman could take out in a physical confrontation, he was taking on both Superman and Alan Scott.


erm

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Not bad what superman did to that guy armor but it dont sound like something that iron man cant pull off and guess what hulk would mud stomp iron man also.


iron man doesnt have the capability to output the kind of power that superman has...

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Why are you comparing cyclops and superman heat vision, one is conconsive force and the other is basically a source of heat.


its concussive force AND heat.

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Its two different things. When hulk was walking through cyclops blast it was basically hulk getting railed by punches. And why would you say that Superman blast is>>cyclops when both have had good things said about them. Hell it was stated by a narrator more then once that cyclops blast alone is strong enough to destroy a moon. Thats pretty powerful if you ask me.


it was cyclops himself that said his blast could split a moon, but he was just talking hyperbole... could scott do it, i don't think so, but he hasn't shown an upper limit as yet...

even so, as much as i love cyclops, he doesn't come close to superman's level...

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[B]Yeah superman does tackle with despero who one shotted him, darkseid who isnt what he use to be and bled from a batkick, and doomsday who basically killed him and has been weaker since then.


ffs... look, carver, i'm not blaming you, but i am sick and tired of people making doomsday rex out to be some pussified version of the character...

First of all:

OWAW Superman was at least twice as powerful (if not three or four times) as the one from Death of Superman. This Superman was solo-ing Imperiex probes (probes that the JLA were getting smacked around by) and taking it to Imperiex more than anyone else... He was a BEAST.

Doomsday almost killed that Superman (hell, Superman was actually dead for a few seconds), and he resisted J'onn's telepathy (and physical attacks) before beating him. J'onn alone is arguably a match for WWH, and he was ktfo with little effort by this Doomsday. THEN Superman went back up against him and beat him. That isn't a low showing, in DOS Superman was snapping off Doomsday's bony protrusions...

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What superman strength feats are you using that makes you think that he is stronger then hulk, let me guess, him pulling the wheel, that feat has already been debated through the forum and established as a feat that isnt as impressive as people make it.


only by those arguing against Superman... Superman fans by and large are generally happy with the feat, from what i've seen...

Anyways, yeah, this is the thread for such stuff...


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no point in trying to have an intelligent discussion on this on kmc....


nobody's forcing you to take part...


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I guess its 7/10 to Superman. WWH can beat him H2H but Superman will start using his other powers.


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I guess its 7/10 to Superman. WWH can beat him H2H but Superman will start using his other powers.


Which wouldnt work.


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IMHO it doesn't even matter how strong Hulk can get, he's not going to touch Superman. I know everyone hates the Superman "speedblitz" argument, but it works here.


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Re: Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

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Originally posted by Raoul
Ok, as i said in the title, this is the official Superman Vs WWH thread... i'll merge any other that are needed, but i dont want to see any Superman vs wwh stuff outside this thread unless its team matches or under very different circumstances...

All Superman Vs WWH arguments go in here, not in other threads... thx.

So anyways:



you want to claim bad writing while hyping up wwh? erm



easily got out of it? he could have shattered her if he'd wanted...



solomon grundy can be batman level, or he can smack around alan scott, this one was the latter... as rorschach said:



erm



iron man doesnt have the capability to output the kind of power that superman has...



its concussive force AND heat.



it was cyclops himself that said his blast could split a moon, but he was just talking hyperbole... could scott do it, i don't think so, but he hasn't shown an upper limit as yet...

even so, as much as i love cyclops, he doesn't come close to superman's level...



ffs... look, carver, i'm not blaming you, but i am sick and tired of people making doomsday rex out to be some pussified version of the character...

First of all:

OWAW Superman was at least twice as powerful (if not three or four times) as the one from Death of Superman. This Superman was solo-ing Imperiex probes (probes that the JLA were getting smacked around by) and taking it to Imperiex more than anyone else... He was a BEAST.

Doomsday almost killed that Superman (hell, Superman was actually dead for a few seconds), and he resisted J'onn's telepathy (and physical attacks) before beating him. J'onn alone is arguably a match for WWH, and he was ktfo with little effort by this Doomsday. THEN Superman went back up against him and beat him. That isn't a low showing, in DOS Superman was snapping off Doomsday's bony protrusions...



only by those arguing against Superman... Superman fans by and large are generally happy with the feat, from what i've seen...

Anyways, yeah, this is the thread for such stuff...



You should tell Fearofgecko this before he starts making more threads like this.


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No need Flash 10/10


Nu-uh!

Hulk defeated.....THE SPEEDFREEK!



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Nu-uh!

Hulk defeated.....THE SPEEDFREEK!



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OMG! But his jet boot things made him the fastest guy in comics!


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Re: Superman Vs WWH (Definitive, Official, One and only thread)

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Ok, as i said in the title, this is the official Superman Vs WWH thread... i'll merge any other that are needed, but i dont want to see any Superman vs wwh stuff outside this thread unless its team matches or under very different circumstances...

All Superman Vs WWH arguments go in here, not in other threads... thx.

So anyways:



you want to claim bad writing while hyping up wwh? erm



easily got out of it? he could have shattered her if he'd wanted...



solomon grundy can be batman level, or he can smack around alan scott, this one was the latter... as rorschach said:



erm



iron man doesnt have the capability to output the kind of power that superman has...



its concussive force AND heat.



it was cyclops himself that said his blast could split a moon, but he was just talking hyperbole... could scott do it, i don't think so, but he hasn't shown an upper limit as yet...

even so, as much as i love cyclops, he doesn't come close to superman's level...



ffs... look, carver, i'm not blaming you, but i am sick and tired of people making doomsday rex out to be some pussified version of the character...

First of all:

OWAW Superman was at least twice as powerful (if not three or four times) as the one from Death of Superman. This Superman was solo-ing Imperiex probes (probes that the JLA were getting smacked around by) and taking it to Imperiex more than anyone else... He was a BEAST.

Doomsday almost killed that Superman (hell, Superman was actually dead for a few seconds), and he resisted J'onn's telepathy (and physical attacks) before beating him. J'onn alone is arguably a match for WWH, and he was ktfo with little effort by this Doomsday. THEN Superman went back up against him and beat him. That isn't a low showing, in DOS Superman was snapping off Doomsday's bony protrusions...



only by those arguing against Superman... Superman fans by and large are generally happy with the feat, from what i've seen...

Anyways, yeah, this is the thread for such stuff...


Its a good idea that you made a thread like this and I like it. The answer to your questions is that the reason that I think that doomsday rex appeared to be weaker due to superman even saying so himself, saying that he was getting weaker due to him losing confidence, when has doomsday become gladiator. Thats why superman was walking all over him due to him losing confidence and becoming weaker embarrasment .

You do know that people such as black lightning stalemated a imperex probe, krypto almost outright out fought a imperex probe, aquaman killed on, wonder woman mother killed two of the with a mere space ship, doomsday and superman was one shotting them, the probes wasnt that impressive to be brought up in a battle forum. They didnt do anything to make me think that they are even above firelord let alone terrax.

Well cyclops did state that he could have used his blast to kill master mold who was the size of texas and he made it appear to be a easy task until he found out that master mold could absorb the blast.

Even though cyclops blast has heat in it, its still not a power that is use to burn things. His power is concussive force which is totally different from heat vision.

By the way, how do you know which version batman was fighting when he was fighting grundy. You cant say that he wasnt fighting the superman version because batman also has great showings against superman.

By the way, War hulk, Mindless Hulk, and WWh, all of them I would give a 7-8/10 over superman, any other hulk besides maestro, superman would basically get a high majority. The reason I give them majorities is due to the fact that superman have fallen on too many of occasions by villian that isnt even physically compared to the hulk and has also been one shotted numerous of times by people that dont possess the hulks strength. Not only was wwh strength increased but as it was stated in the arc, his speed and his durability was increased to high levels.


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