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Wolverine (no claws) vs Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) [MA contest]

They spar in a dojo to determine who is the better fighter. Wolverine will not be using his claws, and Cassandra Cain will not have any equipment. They will spar for one hour. At the end of that hour, unless one of them has been submitted or KOed, the winner will be determined based on the frequency and deadliness of the attacks landed. Who will be found to be the superior fighter?

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I think it would be Cassandra wouldn't it? Can't she like dodge bullets and read your moves seven in advance. I've been told that Wolverine is only an aim dodger. Their MA skills seem pretty even but I don't think Wolverine is fast enough. The only way I see Wolvie weinning is if he outlatsts her do to his HF.

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I've been told that Wolverine is only an aim dodger.

No he has enhanced reflexes.

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No he has enhanced reflexes.

Really cuz I tried to argue the point that he could dodge bullets on another forum and even used some of Jinzin's scans (didn't take credit for them I swear) and the general consensus there was that he was only dodge the shooters aim not the bullets due to the fact that it was not specifically shown. Since I just started reading comics again, i just figured they were more informed than I was.

Jul 29th, 2008 06:01 PM

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cain ftw.

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logan still has the added benefit of metal bones;

-each punch will be harder, he pretty much has brass knuckles

-his shins, elbows, and face are steel hard. punching his face repeatedly can hurt the puncher also.

-the bones special joints coupled with his healing factor kind of negate jujutsu joint locks.

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logan still has the added benefit of metal bones;

-each punch will be harder, he pretty much has brass knuckles

-his shins, elbows, and face are steel hard. punching his face repeatedly can hurt the puncher also.

-the bones special joints coupled with his healing factor kind of negate jujutsu joint locks.

I thought she had advanced punching power and the like though, but I see your point. Also Wolverine should have knowledge of these styles too I would think. I still think his HF would let him outlast her for the win since I doubt he would ever tap out.

Jul 29th, 2008 06:12 PM

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I think it would be Cassandra wouldn't it? Can't she like dodge bullets and read your moves seven in advance. I've been told that Wolverine is only an aim dodger. Their MA skills seem pretty even but I don't think Wolverine is fast enough. The only way I see Wolvie weinning is if he outlatsts her do to his HF.

I don't believe Cain has had the ability to read moves since she learned to speak.

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I don't believe Cain has had the ability to read moves since she learned to speak.

Why would she lose it?

Jul 29th, 2008 07:13 PM

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5/5 for a sparring match - says gut,

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im going with wolverine on this, cassandra is good, but not wolverine good.

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Wolverine. He has more experience, and more training.

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Wolverine. He has more experience, and more training.

Wow. I'm suprised that so many people are saying Wolverine based on experience and training. On every other forum I've seen this thread on, they always give Cain the edge skill-wise.

Jul 29th, 2008 07:58 PM

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logan still has the added benefit of metal bones;

-each punch will be harder, he pretty much has brass knuckles

-his shins, elbows, and face are steel hard. punching his face repeatedly can hurt the puncher also.

-the bones special joints coupled with his healing factor kind of negate jujutsu joint locks.

Im pretty sure if she uses technique she won't hurt her hands.

Jul 29th, 2008 08:10 PM

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Im pretty sure if she uses technique she won't hurt her hands.

when his entire skeleton and joints are laced with metal, skill or not its going to hurt.

Locks and pressure points do no work on logan, his healing factor which is presently more powerful then ever, and the whole thing about logan constantly evolving both physically and being immortal, i doubt shes going to put him down.

Did they ever explain what they meant by "Logan can only die if he chooses to?"

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i doubt shes going to put him down.

she doesn't have to in order to win

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she doesn't have to in order to win

by put down i mean KO

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BG hits him and breaks her hand/feet.

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Due to a retcon/rewrite, Logan's healing factor is back to normal levels. He can die again.

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when his entire skeleton and joints are laced with metal, skill or not its going to hurt.

Locks and pressure points do no work on logan, his healing factor which is presently more powerful then ever, and the whole thing about logan constantly evolving both physically and being immortal, i doubt shes going to put him down.

Did they ever explain what they meant by "Logan can only die if he chooses to?"

I thought they meant that if he chooses not to fight that guy he fights (the name is escaping me at the moment) with everytime he "dies". If he doesn't beat him then he dies I guess. And what's this about a rewrite?

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