6. Clayface = Tie I say. Clayface getting blast to bits and it take him too long to regenarate to continue the battle, or Clay take hold and swallow Cyclop and squeeze him to death.
Where's the setting? Open field, warehouse, night, day. I can see Cap beating Scott if he keeps his shield(not throw) and closes in on him so he can wreck him H2H. Can't see Bats doing this. But in a stealth situation Bats should KO Scott. Doubt Cyke could tag Spider-Man. Not touching Clayface.
good thing this is a non prep'd resourceless battle, Batman gets blasted into oblivion, you must see this and accept it for the good of man kind.
Not to mention responses like that get KMC laughed at over at hero chat, so please please please, no more bad jokes about Batman beating Cyclops when optic blasts are allowed with no stips.
Batman has gas, flash grenades, batarangs and w/e else he carries in his belts.
Of course if the battle is in an relatively open environment, Batman is almost guaranteed to lose since Cyke ain't going to miss him. But I think there is a chance that Batman can use his gadgets effectively (e.g smoke screen etc) to close the gap, then Batman would win the H2H fight. That said, he would still lose most of the time.
In a closed environment like a warehouse, or even just in a generally dark place, Batman has good chance of winning.
I don't read Batman...and only really know a handful of his rogue gallery, (I'm assuming Clayface is a bad guy...right?)
I'm sure Cyclops can fry a lot of people who just stand there like a dummy, but it's silly to think that someone of Batman's skills and athletic prowess is going to be one of them. Plus Cyclops is overrated IMO.
Cyclops also went through training for his optic blast accuracy. This was proven when Cyclops hit fast characters like Quick Silver with ease. It's listed in respect Thread for Cyclops.
You don't have to read Batman comics or have every minutiae of his history at your fingertips to have a general understanding of the character's abilities. Especially not against someone like Cyclops...who I do know very well from following X-Men for many years. The guy is a stiff.
Ok what was that thing we talked about the other day? Common knowledge? Yeah.
It's not like I've never read comics with Batman in them, I just don't follow the character that closely. Just like I don't read X-Men comics anymore, but still consider myself quite knowledgable on the subject. Due to his popularity, and the vast amount of information about him available all over the web, even a casual reader can get a good handle on what his abilities are. You don't need to have infinite knowledge on the character to know that he's an excellent h2h combatant., has a wide array of gadgets and weaponry in his belt, plus a brain. Common knowledge.
Regarding Cyclops, I don't doubt he can fry anyone he nails with his optic blasts at point-blank range, but what else has he got? Maybe you're under the assumption that Batman will just stand in front of him and do nothing...if that's the case, then Cyclops surely wins, but that would be a ludicrous assumption. How good is Cyclops h2h? He's too one-dimensional, IMO. People talk about him as if he's Captain America, when in fact he's far from it.
So that's my opinion...if your nickers are still in a knot over it, then that's your problem.
Last edited by Lord S on Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:19 AM