Long sobbing winds,
The violins,
Of autumn drone.
Wounding my heart,
With languorous smart,
In monotone.
Choking and pale,
When on the gale,
The hour sounds deep,
I call to mind
Dead years behind,
And I weep.
And I, going,
Borne by blowing
Winds and grief,
Flutter here, there,
As on the air,
The dying leaf.
-Paul Verlaine (translated)
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Useful, no? It will thoroughly mess with Power Pax's gravitational fields, possibly even doing damage to him. Though this is just insurance. Machine Man will already have negated gravity around him, making him powerless with his gravity powers. It's also handy for disintegrating any metal objects (vibranium?) that Power Pax has meshed with.
A recent showing: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf1fx5.jpg
Somehow, I can't see any of my team members getting knocked out by a lazy "fap" to the head from a dinosaur that's falling down. She's a flying brick with good but not great feats, and a few low ones. Little else. Not bad, but not good either.
His reaction speed in Extremis. Read and be awed. http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?...eaction1sr7.jpg
Speedball isn't touching his amalgam, nor is anyone. And he'll be doing everything I need him to, along with Machine Man in the amalgamation, with time to spare.
Gravity negation to fly. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/2001-8-11.jpg
There's a scan that summarizes it more fully, but the exact wording is that he "negates the gravity equation." I'll try to dig it up for later.
Negates gravity around a falling woman http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...ineMan16-16.jpg
So he can remotely affect gravity around people and objects, provided he is close by. Power Pax is BONED, as explained in the opening audio file.
Wraps up Cable, and nearly kills him, even while fighting the remote influence of another entity within him. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...n98Annual32.jpg
This is how we'll render Speedball helpless, even in a stronger host. Along with Tony’s reaction times, this will be a piece of cake. He also has an extension in his torso, can extend his head, and legs. Ample amounts of length, even for, say, Atom Girl.
Hurricane winds from fingertips http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...Man_02_pg11.jpg
...mentioned because I can use this to slow, block, or redirect Speedball. Or anyone, really. Most of his team would be floored by this. And this in addition to the fact that Tony/MM is fast enough to dodge them. Fangirl's not getting anywhere me until I let him.
Will post feats as I need to. It's not like I need to prove that Sinister is a strong telepath (though I will if needed). I'll wait to see if fangirl has any tp resistance outside of Speedball. If not, game over. And I have uses for Joker. But again, I don't really need him right now. Will gauge their involvement as the match goes on.
Atom Girl
As stated before, I have proof that it's impossible if he tries an infinite growing trick. But besides that, one of his amalgams will either be bigger or smaller. 2cm is the small-ness cap. Not exactly fear-inspiring. Same tactics should apply to any character, bigger or smaller, though I'll make slight adjustments once I see how she’s being used.
Conclusion
No wrap-up. Did that earlier. Again, make sure you listen to the accompanying audio file. I'm a bit worried that it will be overlooked accidentally.
The Combatants:
BP- Vibranium Armor, Anti-Metal claws, Ebony Blade, Skill, Genius
JM- Expert Martial Artist, Aversion Field
SB- Kinetic Impact shield, kinetic force bubbles, extreme telepathy resistance
SF- Solar Absorbing, Energy Blast, Flight, Super Strength, Endurance, Resistance to injury
Vi- Flight Ring, Shrinking, growing
Power Pax- Increase decrease density, density blast, density force fields, liquid form, cloud form, increase size, decrease size, gravity punch, decrease gravity, increase gravity, density punch, super sonic flight, teleportation, energy absorbing, disintegration beams/touch, redirection, blast.
Prep Area- LOS headquarters
Prep-
Vi gives BP her flight ring-2 seconds
JM and BP amalgamate-2 mins
PP and SB Amalgamate-2mins
SF and Vi Amalgamate-2mins
Untouchable Panther grabs one of Brainy’s FF belts. - 1 minute
The plan of attack
Giant Star is the Big Gun so to speak and the demolition. She’s unleashed at her full size. Unleashing a wave of Giant sized solar blast from above at the enemy. This is meant to throw the enemy on the defensive and cause serious damage. At 7 ft Star Fire was briefly able to match Orion’s AF. At 50 plus feet, she is going to dish out some serious dmg.
Mister Sinister (Or his amalgam) is going to be the most dangerous and versatile opponent I’ll be facing. With his uber durability, telepathy, strength and plethora of powers, I’m going to have Power Ball, Teleport/Fly in for the kill. Sinister is going to find it hard putting down a being that can deflect physical and energy attacks with his kinetic field and density shields. As well as being able to let beams and solids pass thru him. Using his gravity powers, he gravitizes the entire area of battle so that any one touching the ground is going to have that much harder time moving IF they can even over come his gravity field. Slowing down their reaction times and movements. With the versatility and power at my command I can become gaseous and enter Sinister’s nose or mouth and expand my kinetic field inside mister sinister until he explodes. Separating his body into many small fragments. He wouldn’t be able to pull himself back together because of my gravity field holding the shards in place. I can engage sinister in hand to hand. Speed Ball’s field works in such a way that a normal teenage kid hitting Speed Ball would be hit back with the force of a Mack truck. Basically the harder someone hits speed ball, the greater the force is turned back upon them. And this is only a defense power. Sinister could in effect shatter himself trying to engage Power Ball in hand to hand. Power Ball would be a ***** to put down in hand to hand given his ability to turn from solid to liquid to gas, to super dense, added in with that kinetic field and density bubbles. A combination of Super G punches, Density Punches, Density Blast, Kinetic Field fluxes, Kinetic Punches is going to rock Sinister’s world. Sinister dare not try to use telepathy as a weapon. He’s no Gamesmaster. Whom Speed Ball’s Kinetic field has successfully resisted. Power Ball is going to finish his bout with Sinister (Hybrid) with his disintegration blast. Absorbing the matter around Sinister as well as parts of Sinister to power himself up and then releasing the blast on what ever remains of the Sinister (hybrid)
Mean while, Giant Star is having fun keeping the other team’s combatants busy. They are finding it hard to put down a Giant version of Star Fire. With her Strength, Durability, stamina, energy absorption, and starbolts greatly magnified, she has probably already killed many of the opposing team’s smaller opponents. The Sheer Collateral Damage she would cause is going to be nearly impossible to over come.
Iron Man, Machine Man, and or Death’s Head, or what ever Hybrid they have become is left to Untouchable Panther.
Black Panther has extensive knowledge of science, technology, and most importantly, two weapons that can put the screws to Iron Man esque Characters. He’s got Anti Metal Claws and boots, and the Ebony Blade. The Blade has already been shown to pwn Iron man. With his new found abilities of flight, (Via Vi’s flight ring,) and his aversion aura, any of his enemies he has to engage are going to be hard pressed to use their most potent blast or weapons on him. A concentrated attack or direct hit is always more potent than a general area blast. If His opponent(s) do try a general area attack( thus weakening their effectiveness) His vibranium suit is going to absorb the energy of said attack and strengthen the suit, as well as the fact that he has on Brainiac's force field belt. It’s going to be impossible to break his defenses.
With his skill, combined with Judo masters, added mobility of the legion flight ring, and is ebony blade and anti-metal claws, his going to be a ridiculous offensive opponent all while being virtually untouchable.
Just as a note, my area got hit with leftovers from Ike. Not nearly full force (I'm FAR from the coast) but enough to knock power out at my house for a few days and leave some property damage. I'm also saddled with jury duty this week, so my life just went from zero to insanely complicated this week.
My friend's letting me use his computer (he's in one of the pockets that kept their power), and I had the presence of mind to save all my scans on my flash drive a few days ago, so I should be ok for tourney purposes. But a couple hours a day will be a maximum, if I'm lucky, so I apologize if I can't post a ton.
1. I think I covered everything fangirl said in my writeup. But hell. I'm bored.
2. Thanks for the kudos on the audio stuff. I'll be shortening them for future matches, for those who are concerned about them, but they're ultimately just as easy to follow.
3. My plan is outlined in teh scans as well. For the audiologically disinclined, you can read those as well...there's plenty there to respond to.
And I thought my prep was hard to follow ( ). Seriously, abbreviations...erm.
Really? Cool. So would you say these blasts might be akin to, say, a Nova Blast?
- The myth that he can determine matchups. Very false. Tony's fast as crap, he's dealing with far more firepower than he's dishing out. And beyond on all that, my team is sticking together. He's fighting all of us, not individual matchups.
- Gravitizing the entire battle. Nyet. See also: Machine Man looking sideways at you once you get close. Scans above.
- Punching Speedball. Why would I do that?
- Also, it occurs to me that I didn't provide multiple concrete way of taking out Speedork. Strangling works, as I mentioned earlier. But how about this: superheating his skin until he melts/explodes. I don't have access to my regular computer (no power, hurricane winds, etc.) but I have a scan of him superheating Ultron until he literally breaks apart after he wraps him up with his arm extensions. That'll easily work.
Wait. WAIT. Starfire is taking on 3 people?! It's just a...well...a bigger flying brick than before. Still unimpressive. Minion can still slit her open anywhere, Tony can absorb energy, and they can generally just beat her down. What has she ever done that even an increase in size would do much of anything?
Joking, yes? This one can't even fly. I ignore it while I kill your other two. Or hit it with a stray bolt of spread-fire energy while battling the real threats. Problem solved.
Ebony blade, tech, small anti-metal claws. Woo. Can't fly, and you're basically still a street leveler. If I could pimp hand this amalgam, I would. As it is, the aversion field prevents me from that pleasure, so I'll just wait to kill you in a less cool fashion.
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Oh, also a horrible miscalculation. Attacking Sinister with Speedball doesn't mean anyone else has telepathic resistance. Mind-rape ftw, yo. Speedy will be the only one fighting after the opening moments of the fight.
Useful, no? It will thoroughly mess with Power Pax's gravitational fields, possibly even doing damage to him. Though this is just insurance. Machine Man will already have negated gravity around him, making him powerless with his gravity powers. It's also handy for disintegrating any metal objects (vibranium?) that Power Pax has meshed with.
FG’s Response
The first thing I want to bring up is the fact that we have no idea what machine man’s powers will do to someone who has greater control over gravity than he does. Power Pax has the combined experience of himself as well as his siblings with the G master powers. He has performed things with gravity that Machine Man never has. Making himself Super Heavy, Gravity Charged Punches, Negating Gravity, Even being able to resist a tractor beam from a stellar class ship.
black panther rebuttle
These showings against BP Might mean something if it weren’t for the fact that All of these guys did this to BP in hand to hand. No one on Digi’s team is laying a blaster, finger, knife, or any other directed attack towards the suit.Thanks to that handy aversion field. Oh and Digi, you forgot that I put Brainiac’s force field belt on BP. It can stand up to Daxamite Class attacks.
Here BP’s suit stands up to a punch from Namor and thru a glass window and into a parked car.
A recent showing: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sf1fx5.jpg
Somehow, I can't see any of my team members getting knocked out by a lazy "fap" to the head from a dinosaur that's falling down. She's a flying brick with good but not great feats, and a few low ones. Little else. Not bad, but not good either.
starfire rebuttle
As for Starfire, you really think that showing a depowered version of starfire fighting a dinosaur is a good indication of her durability? This same character was shown taking asteroids to the face when Devilance was launching them at her. She flew lightyears thru space under her own power and endurance and durability. She’s taken Shots from Wonder Woman and even survived and angry blast from Orion. Albeit greatly injured.
FG’s Response
Of Course your team just happens to be tapping into a near limitless MAGICAL well of energy at a noob version of Speedball in this fight. Tee Hee.
FG’s Response
Your team even amalgamated does not possess the fire power to rip the earth’s magnetic core. Speed ball, not only flexed his field, early on in his career when he was still kind of a noob at his powers but, he was protecting a lot of others. We know that took more effort to protect that many people from a blast like Sienaa Blazes. It took the combined might of Storm, and Cyclops at full power, just to deflect Sienna Blaze’s attack. Speed Ball Absorbed it with a SPREAD field. As we all know, Spreading a field, makes it weaker. Your team wont’ be putting my Speed ball amalgam down with any energy they can muster. They don’t have the power. Come back when your team has Alpha Mutant power. Don’t forget my Power Ball Amalgam has density shields, Density alteration, Energy absorbtion and the ability to disperse and pull himself back together as well.
FG’s Response
Actually, This USED to be true of speed ball until he went into the speedball dimension during the sphinx saga and learned far greater control of his powres. And There is one thing you didn’t count on. Speed ball being meshed with Power Pax. Part of the Light Speed powers is teleportation. Speed Ball wouldn’t need to expend any energy before he reached your team because power pax’s abilities give him far faster mobility. Also, when Terrax attacked the new warriors, Marvel boy was able to hold Speed ball in a TK bubble until he bounced enough power out to actually harm the herald. In this case, The Mass master powers can do the same. A density shield around the ever moving kinetic shield and you have an instant built up Speed Ball wrecking machine. Of course this was even before Speed ball learned to flex the field for attack.
FG’s Response
Good Thing he learned control over that, plus the he has flight, density powers, and gravity powers that allow him to control himself being merged with Power Pax,Power House.
FG’s Response
Yes Speed Ball can be tied up. But How would any of these tactics work on the Mass Master and Energizer Powers? The Energizer Powers disintegrate matter on a molecular level and then turn it into stored energy. One thing you don’t wanna do is touch Power Ball with anything physical.Hell even the Energizer powers absorb mass amounts of energy directed towards the user. So you have the Energizer powers and the Speed field. Good luck getting around this guy’s defense and over coming his offense. And the Mass master powers would allow him to simply separate his molecules so that the bonds slip thru, or he turns to vapor, water, smaller, bigger, ect. Speed Ball’s many uses of his kin field and power houses multi-use multi powers mean you’ll have to be extremely powerful and creative to put this amalgam down.
We'll be doing this a few different ways (see below).
Basically, they'd have trouble killing Minion alone, and he'd wreck most of their team.
FG’s Response
Now how would My team have trouble killing Minion when BP has the ebony blade and Anti metal claws and can get in close on Minion wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it? How would a Giant star fire have trouble have trouble incinerating Minion? You know her star bolts are linked to her ability to absorb solar radiation right? A bigger star fire means more solar absorbtion. Not just bigger Bolts. And Power Ball would pwn Minion. Disintegration touch anyone?
FG’s Response
Does this explosion rip at the Earth’s magnetic core? Didn’t other’s survive the blast too?
His reaction speed in Extremis. Read and be awed. http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?...eaction1sr7.jpg
Speedball isn't touching his amalgam, nor is anyone. And he'll be doing everything I need him to, along with Machine Man in the amalgamation, with time to spare.
FG’s Response
BP has gotten the better of Surfer who’s reaction times make Iron Man’s look like a 3 year old school girl playing in the major leagues.
FG’s Response
Gigantic concussive blast would do as much damage to your team as It would mine. And my team has the advantave of multiple shields and durability. Power Pax’s Density shields have saved their parents before. They aren’t only used to shield himself.
FG’s Response
Now who on my amalgam list can Tony one shot? His armor would Disintegrate if he touches Power Ball with the energizer powers on. If he could get past his density shields and Kinetic shields AND hit mist. Are you sure He can one shot a Giant Star fire? She’s taken a full on blitz from Wonder Woman and was still up and ready to fight some more. So um, a Giant version of her pulling more solar radiation would be exponentially more powerful and durable. You know she flies stellar distances with no need for a ship right? Yeah, that Durability of a fully charged Star Fire. No need to explain Untouchable Panther. He’s got the aversion field, his vibranium suit, and brianiac’s force field belt.
Won't have scans until tomorrow. Will post them in a separate post. Until then, I'll be describing a few. You'll have to take my word until you can see them.
But kudos to fangirl for making it a match. I'm happy to be forced to actually be serious, which my last post wasn't (though it's still very valid in terms of the match). Anyway, play time's over. g'luck FG. You're fighting uphill as it is, and I'm going to make it even harder in a second here.
There's also the scan of him covering the American East Coast with a nova blast, but I can't find the scan.
And look at the scan again: http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?...ovablastks3.jpg
It didn't phase Tony at all. Not only might she not be able to match Johnny's output, but she'd have to be >>>>> it to even begin to bother Tony.
Not to mention that Tony's Uni-Beam can achieve temps that are > the sun at about 60% of his power output (I'll post the scan tomorrow). Starfire might not even have the best solar blasts in this fight.
Your blasts are just that, blasts. I can produce sonics, lasers, telepathy, etc. etc. etc. Also, Starfire still has lower durability than anyone on my team, and I can't believe she could produce the nuke-esque blasts that I showed my team surviving. Or if she did, you team would be boned as well. Also, my healing. Starfire's going to be reeling from every blast, big or not. Hell, I'll just have Minion fly around and slash her throat in his IM armor, with his molebdenum blade that is almost as tough as adamantium (which I'll also corroborate with scans once I'm back home tomorrow). She won't be healing from that, or attacking, or doing anything but dying.
I will. I'll probably use it in a fight. But until then, this comment means nothing. Show me Power Pax manipulating something whose gravity has been negated, THEN we'll talk. I don't have to overcome PP's gravity powers. I'm just not giving you anything to fight me with.
Also, we have yet to see PP do anything with his more exotic powers. I know he can use gravity, but I negated that. Prove to me he'd do half the stuff you say with any kind of skill, and maybe he lasts longer than a minute.
Look closer. I'm not doing this to Starfire. I'm punching her into ugly, crippling her with sonics, laying her low with telepathy, and cutting her throat. I'm only doing this to Speedball, who'd be susceptible to it once I wrap him up with X-51. And if you try your gas form to get out of it, I already showed earlier why you'd be in a ton of trouble. Within hundredths of a second, Tony would be producing hurricane winds with MM's powers to blow you into nothingness.
Missed that. My bad. He remains a minor nuisance, a street leveler with a flight ring. Iron Man won't be getting touched, can hit at least Mach 8 (I have scans), similar with Minion in the IM suit, and I have such epic healing feats that anything you do to me will be temporary.
Actually, as mentioned in the writeup, strangling would also work on this amalgam.
Lulz. Co-opting my ideas for your team now? You never stated he'd be doing this initially, so when you start the fight, 2/3 of your team is immensely vulnerable to tp. Speedball certainly is immune to tp, even of Sinister's level. But no one else on your team has even passable tp resistance. In short, Sinister could probably win the battle alone.
And Speedball only extended his field to protect from energy. You're guessing entirely by saying it would work for tp as well. I only speculated that he MAY be able to do it, and there certainly isn't evidence to suggest that he can. Beyond that, I already showed how extending his field makes him more vulnerable (see writeup scans). If you want to provide momentary tp resistance for everyone, fine. Speedball will die that much quicker.
Random Notes (instead of quoting his other posts):
- learn to quote me like I'm doing here in this post, if possible. Easier for me (and judges) to see what you're saying. Just a friendly tip.
Speedy
- Speedball's only powerful attacks are super-charged ones. This doesn't change after he "gets training" as fangirl seems to imply. I know because I've read almost everything he's ever been in. That scan of Namor laughing at "soap bubbles" is exactly what we'll be facing. Fangirl never did ANYTHING to charge him, at any point in the match. Very important to remember.
- Similarly, he doesn't suddenly gain the ability to change direction mid-air with training. He still bounces, albeit with more skill than before. Sans gravity powers (negated: see earlier) he's still a liability to the "burden of momentum" I mentioned in my writeup.
PowerDork
- Would PP's disintegrating touch work more quickly on someone with ridiculous healing than a slash to the face would work on him? Just checking. Because if we're touching each other like this, it means Speedball's at rest, and thus his powers are utterly worthless. So it's Power Dork vs. epic amounts of damage, either energy, piercing, sonics, strangling, etc. depending on who is doing the slaying of him. Whatever works best.
- Also just realized that PP is largely ground-bound due to no gravity powers. Bonus. I can rain energy down on him until he succumbs to it. Or wrap him up and supercharge him with ehated energy, absorbing anything that is thrown back at me (see Tony absorbing Nova Blast in my previous post).
- Sticking with this theme, has Power Pax done all this stuff with his powers, or his siblings? You're using every power in his book, but providing no evidence that he could use them all so quickly and efficiently. IIRC, he has about 10 showings as PP. Hardly enough to be experienced with anything but the gravity powers, which are gone. You have some work to do there before it's believable.
Starfire
- Maybe Starfire's the strongest in the fight. Maybe. But I've never been concerned with that. She can barely heal, if at all, will be vulnerable to Minion's formidable cutting, Tony's sonic attacks, and Sinister's telepathy.
- Starfire wasn't depowered for that embarrassing showing I posted. I'll be happy to be proved wrong, and it's not like it's intrinsic to my plan, but unless I'm mistaken, it's a completely valid owning by a T-Rex's tail.
Sinister
- STILL no answer to telepathy. 2/3 of the team is literally gone in the opening seconds. Mind Possession is banned, but shutting down minds and/or turning them into putty isn't. And did he really just ask if Sinister can handle 2 untrained minds at once?! That's like demanding proof that Spider-Man can dodge bullets. It seems I actually do need to post some Sinister scans this match. Be prepared for more than enough evidence once I retrieve my files from home.
- Damn, I wanna use Joker too. Eh. Maybe next match.
I'm very familiar with Johnny. Now are you familiar with Wonder Woman's bracers?
She's deflected the Omega Beams and Superman's heat vision while sun charged as well as Multiple blast from Amazo. With no visable effect or after affect.
Her blast actually leave Wondy's bracers crackling with energy. And this is after Wondy has to cross her bracers and use her shield.
She even manages to One shot wondy out of the sky with her casual one handed blast.
Let us also not forget that she managed to match Orion's Blast for a time before being overwhelmed.
Here, Kory manages to hurt a New God in thier Giant form with her blast. Something I've only seen the earth angel Supergirl do. And this is while She was weakened from not having absorbed any star energy for after being cut off by Devilance. http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9112/scan00169um.jpg
Now you wanna tell me that a giant form of Star Fire Isn't going to be able to completely incinerate most of your team in the first second of the fight? you actually think minion is going to be cutting her when at her regular size she can fly at light speeds with no shields? Do you know how durable you have to be to do that? Stop fooling yourself Digi. StarFire is a threat, and at 50 ft, She's going to pwn at least some of your team.
Oh and One thing Tony wouldn't want to do to Kory is hit her with a Solar beam. Wouldn't want to provide her with additional power now would we?
Oh and Digi, you think Minion is going to be slashing Giant Star's throat? ha ha. The powers of Vi are instantaneous. the moment she sees Minion or anyone coming at her, You know she does have super ehnanced senses and all,flying thru space at stellar speeds and stuff, She shrinks down to 2cm and flies into minion's suit, or who ever and pwns them from the inside by frying them or growing. Or She does her nova blast from inside the skull of whom ever she see's fit. Get around that hot shot. your blade isn't small enough to slice her throat at that size.
All of the Power Pack children have the ability to recall the more exotic uses of thier siblings power and expand on them. you should have looked up the power pack as individuals. they've all swapped powers and used the exotic abilities. they Each have had ALL of the other's powers. Didn't you know? Oh and dont' forget that they have instant healing powers. Tee hee.
Once again Digi, I see you've only researched speed Ball. part of Power Pax's power set is called Density manipulation. You wouldn't be able to blow him apart. His conciousness remains. And he has his own form of the same wind blast. They call them density Blast. Or Deflects your air blast with A density shield. And I think you are under the impression that speed Ball has to be in motion to flex his shield. that isn't how that works. In your very own scan of speed ball deflecting sienna blazes attack, he's standing there expanding the field outwards to protect others. He's not in motion. So Speedy's field is up anytime he wants it to be. moving or not.
"Sigh's" Digi. How can you strangle someone you can't touch? You first have to aim to strangle. Aversion field? You won't be strangling BP? Oh and if you think Iron Man is out maneuvering a Legion flight ring, you better think again. That ring is thousands of years more advanced than any thing Tony is wearing. Oh and Yes BP can do lasting damage to anyone he faces. The EB is more than enough to lob off anyone's head and they wont' be able to do a thing about it. Don't forget wide area blast won't work because he took Brainiac 5's force field belt at prep. Unless you are stronger than a Daxamie, you aren't getting thru that shield.
Digi, You never stated that you'd mind rape at the beginning of the battle. And I've never seen Sinister mind rape multiple moving targets at once. And you seem to think that Speedy's kinetic field needs to be flexed to cover my team. Oh no dear. you see the mass master affect would allow Power Ball to spread himself like a mist over the entire team while at the same time having the advantage of the kinetic field in place. Without flexing. Oh and the Mass master power allows the user to even control different parts of the mist without being attached. If I get to find scans or get help I'll post these feats.
Second, more importantly, she is drained. She says so herself.
Starfire's power is not proportional to her size, but to the amount of solar energy she has absorbed.
So yeah. Forget massive blasts. She's just as powerful as she would be at her normal size. Stronger, possibly a bit more durable. But still vulnerable to telepathy, sonics, slashing, etc. etc. Fangirl's only trump card was you guys believing that she could, I dunno, reproduce a star's output or something. She can't, plain and simple.
Double Standards
Have to call shenanigans on something fangirl is trying to do:
In my writeup I mentioned Tony brining goopy stuff to ensnare Speedball. But it wasn't in the prep portion (which I didn't think mattered). FG's response:
We'll likely need ill to rule on this sort of thing for future weeks, but I'll concede it for now. I've detailed many other ways of beating his team...the goop was frankly an afterthought when I found the scan.
However, then fangirl starts altering his plan after his writeup. Specifically, with how he'll use the Speedball/PP amalgamation. He's since been claiming that Speedy will have his field around everyone (which would make him vulnerable, shown earlier) to protect from Sinister's tp.
Never said it in the writeup, bub. Gotta hold you to the same ridiculous standard that you held me. And if he tries to do it during the match, your teammates will already be passed out on the ground from telepathic assault.
So even if you believe that he'd extend his field, it just makes it easier to kill Speedball. He doesn't, though, but he's trying to play a double standard with our strategies so that he can.
Quick Notes:
- So. Still no answer to TP. I hope your 1 amalgam can take on my 3.
- Haven't mentioned the magnetic fluctuations in a while that Minion messes up PP with, using Tony's borrowed armor. So here it is.
Faulty logic. "WW has blocked Amazo, therefore blocking Kory's blasts means it's of equal value." By that logic, me punching the bracers is of the same strength as Omega Beams. Wonder Woman looks upset, not harmed. That shows me nothing.
And do I really need to list the people Iron Man has stalemated for far longer than Kory has fought with, well, anyone? A stalemate isn't an admission of power...it's surviving for a bit before the more powerful person gets pissed.
Again, if by "crackling energy" you mean "unharmed," then I agree. Also, lulz at "casual blast." Kory was ticked. That's like saying leonidas was casual as he delivered his kick to the Persian messenger.
Read carefully. I didn't attack her with the Uni-Beam. That would be silly. I only made the point that she likely doesn't have the best solar blasts in the fight, which I maintain.
I will, however, reiterate that nothing you've shown is anything close to a Nova Blast, which I've shown Tony absorbing and redirecting back at him. The same goes for Minion, only slightly less so since he's not in Extremis but still a fairly recent armor. Your solar blasts won't even hurt my team, and will likely be getting used against you. For all the hype, you still haven't produced evidence of anything I can't easily deal with.
Gladly.
Anyone familiar with Tony knows that his armor can't be breached by outside forces. Quantum nanites (sub-atomic) are the only thing that can possibly invade his armor: http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?...eperatlyzg2.jpg
...and certainly nothing as clunky and worthless as 2cm. You'll just be easier to kill. So please try that. It'll make things easier.
Now, on to speed. "Steller speeds!" Woo! 'cept the speed cap is Mach 10. You can't exceed that, and I can match it with 2 of my 3. Also, flight speed isn't combat speed, and as I posted before: http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?...eaction1sr7.jpg
...nobody's coming close to that. Not Starfire, not anybody. I'll do whatever I want to her, thank you.
And he's also as sharp/durable as they come: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41mh1.jpg
...not highest quality adamantium in the scan, but adamantium nonetheless. So cutting her isn't an issue. And I will heal. You, however, will feel everything I do to you.
Tee hee indeed. I'm beginning to think this is simply a load of crap. Has Alex Power done these things? Any of them? Let alone in tight conjunction with one another, to meet every one of my varied threats? Even issue numbers would suffice, or descriptions of feats. But no, you're just listing powers, not really explaining how or when they're being used, and certainly not justifying that he'd do any of them with the mind-numbing efficiency that would be needed to combat my team.
So lemme get this straight, if possible. You say you'll turn into a gas form (no evidence, but whatever), I produce a scan (hard evidence) that shows that I'll blow you into nothingness. You say you'll use density powers, which while in gas form (no evidence, slightly illogical at best anyway) for it to matter? Or use your own wind powers, which are effectively worthless because I doubt you could use them in gas form, and if you're not in gas form they serve no function at all. So really, can you use these all at once? Can you increase the density of your gas form while blowing other air toward me to counteract my own??? Or are you just making sh*t up? Because you seem confused at to when and how I'm attacking you, and in which situations, and are doing nothing more than listing powers (none shown by Alex yet, btw) and hoping one of them fits.
And yeah, Speedy's field is always up. Which is why I never said I'd punch him, which would charge the field. But at a resting state, it's not nearly as useful as when he charged. So yeah, it's up. But it brings nothing to the fight, especially when I still have oodles of ways of taking you out besides punching.
The ring is from the future, yes, but just allows for flight. It's hardly cutting-edge tech. You want to explain how it grants the user enhanced reflexes that come close to what I've shown my team capable of? Or are you just going to go with the "it's from the future" angle?
I did. Much as I know you hated the audio writeup, I specifically stated that I could take out everyone but Speedball with Sinister in it. I actually specifically used the word mind-rape in it as well. I also said the onus was upon you to prove otherwise, which is still is. You haven't. Thus, mind-rape for the win.
Are you really resorting to claiming that Sinister's tp is messed up because people are moving instead of stationary?
Anyway, aside from that nonsense, here's a few feats just so the judges can't complain.
Is Starfire as skilled telepathically as Jean? Is Judomaster? T'Challa? Anyone? Bueller? ....Bueller?
The rest is speculation. I already explained why he doesn't get the luxury of his field around his entire team (see "Double Standards" section), so the mind-rape is in full affect. And presuming that the kinetic field can be turned into a mist, which has never been shown and may not be possible given the nature of his powers, is absurd. And I already showed why expanding his field makes him more vulnerable to energy attacks. And I already showed how I can deal with him in mist form.
Mutant Massacre holds up. It shows the kids using thier powers in many of the ways I described. Also in Power Pack Holiday Special. I'm pretty much done with this match. without scans I can't really back up much unless the judges themselves are as familiar with the characters as I am. U seem NOT to be.
It's not the responsibility of opponents and judges to know your team intimately. It's your responsibility to ensure that they understand what the need to know. So no, I don't know anything about Power Pax. Which is even worse for you, since I've read through this match and still feel that way.
Also, feats of the siblings don't count for Alex. Even with scans, you'd have to do better than that.
actually feats of siblings Do count. Every time they swap powers, th eother sibling has been shown to do the exact same thing AND add to it. He's had all of thier powers individually and collectively as Power Pax.
Eh. Was expecting a final hurrah. Maybe he's waiting to get the last word and responding to everything. That would be his only hope at this point, so it might be smart.
But even then. Eh.
If fangirl wants to believe that Alex's siblings' feats count, good for him. Judges can make their own ruling on that. Personally, I can't see it. I remember Soujaboy and MartianMind arguing something similar against me once. They were using Thor's versatility feats for BRB. One doesn't necessarily translate to the other, even if the same potential is there. Judges didn't buy it in that match either.
But it doesn't matter. I have telepathy pwnage that he never countered. I have multiple ways beyond that to take down all his amalgams. I have every weakness of Speedball pointed out and exploited. I have reasons why a larger Starfire isn't a better Starfire. And I have scans to back up each and every point. My opponent: maybe 3-4 scans, nothing to corroborate anything he's doing with Power Pax, most of which sounds impossible, or at least highly unlikely that he has the experience and reactions needed to pull off such epic power-juggling. And after calling Sinister "the most dangerous and versatile opponent I'll be facing" (his words, not mine) he proceeded to try to tell you that he can't attack 2 people telepathically, when it's widely known as one of his strongest powers. His reason for this: they're moving. Uh.
You have a good team fangirl. A lot more can be done with them, and you rightly subbed out at least 1 dead weight pick in Starfire for next round's match (though I personally would have kept BP). But you did next to nothing with them this round, and effectively refuted nothing I presented.
Good luck to you as the tourney continues, thank you to the judges, delph, and any interested onlookers.
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Sep 15th, 2008 05:10 PM
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