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DCU's Synnar (Nameless One) Vs Vertigo's Lucifer

In Starlin's latest issue of Rann/Thanagarian Holy War, it was revealed that Synnar has Michael's power to make a multiverse. Retconning Lucifer and Michael's history. Anyway, who would place your bets on?

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Lets see the next few issues to gauge his omnipotence

Remember, its Starlin. Infinity Gauntlet or HOTI anyone stick out tongue


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Retconning Lucifer and Michael's history. Anyway, who would place your bets on?
he didn't retcon anything, really. mike/lucifer being responsible for creation took place within vertigo comics. all the 'synnar incident' proved is that vertigo and the mainstream DCU are separate entities completely (as myself, and many others have argued several times.)

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Remember, its Starlin. Infinity Gauntlet or HOTI anyone stick out tongue
yeah, it seems like starlin thoroughly enjoys riding the 'all powerful' bone.


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he didn't retcon anything, really. mike/lucifer being responsible for creation took place within vertigo comics. all the 'synnar incident' proved is that vertigo and the mainstream DCU are separate entities completely (as myself, and many others have argued several times.)

yeah, it seems like starlin thoroughly enjoys riding the 'all powerful' bone.
tbh, there's still nothing definitive about Synnar's proposed history either. He was suggesting a new religion in his image, and that was to be the story the masses would be told, is what I got out of it. Not much to say it's truly authentic yet.


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he didn't retcon anything, really. mike/lucifer being responsible for creation took place within vertigo comics. all the 'synnar incident' proved is that vertigo and the mainstream DCU are separate entities completely (as myself, and many others have argued several times.)

yeah, it seems like starlin thoroughly enjoys riding the 'all powerful' bone.

And yet, Michael does exist in the DCU and he's quite a bit more powerful than the Spectre.


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tbh, there's still nothing definitive about Synnar's proposed history either. He was suggesting a new religion in his image, and that was to be the story the masses would be told, is what I got out of it. Not much to say it's truly authentic yet.
exactly. however, knowing starlin is part of this story makes me think it's probably true. we'll just have to wait until the series is finished, i guess. i'm thinking superman will have to come in and own his ass. *shrug*

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And yet, Michael does exist in the DCU and he's quite a bit more powerful than the Spectre.
and??


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And yet, Michael does exist in the DCU and he's quite a bit more powerful than the Spectre.
He exists in the DCU, and has had more authority the couple times they crossed paths.

It's not to say he's entirely more powerful altogether.

As in the Spectre comic where they collided, Jim Corrigan/Spectre was violating one of the rules, where-as Micheal was fullfilling his job. Seems to me Micheal was in favor.

Most times Spectre violates his purpose, or Gods' creeds, his power comes up short. In his realm however, he's nigh omnipotent.

He may be more powerful tho, but who knows?


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He exists in the DCU, and has had more authority the couple times they crossed paths.

It's not to say he's entirely more powerful altogether.

As in the Spectre comic where they collided, Jim Corrigan/Spectre was violating one of the rules, where-as Micheal was fullfilling his job. Seems to me Micheal was in favor.

Most times Spectre violates his purpose, or Gods' creeds, his power comes up short. In his realm however, he's nigh omnipotent.

He may be more powerful tho, but who knows?

Mikey is more powerful. To outright state that he could destroy the Spectre. That is some ridiculous power. Not even the source can do that. Mike did kinda elude to the fact that the spectre was all powerful in his own area of tho.


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Mikey is more powerful. To outright state that he could destroy the Spectre. That is some ridiculous power. Not even the source can do that.


Captain Marvel in the other hand...


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Captain Marvel in the other hand...

Can't either.


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Not enough known about the new Synnar yet (though I would place my bet on the Morningstar)


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yeah, it seems like starlin thoroughly enjoys riding the 'all powerful' bone.


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Just got done with Rann, Synnar seems pretty uber. Not enough known about him yet though.


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He was taking on Micheal, Spectre, PS, and ton of other powerful Angelic/Demonic beings...

And he gave up instead of being defeated.

He seems pretty obscurely powerful.


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Yeah, but his only on-panel feat to date is not killing Bizarro with a blast to the chest.


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He was taking on Micheal, Spectre, PS, and ton of other powerful Angelic/Demonic beings...

And he gave up instead of being defeated.

He seems pretty obscurely powerful.

I didn't see Michael in the scan.


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I didn't either. Who knows if he's even telling the truth either?


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Scan what scan where hes fighting PS and The Spectre and others???


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