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Wolverine vs Sebastian Shaw

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I don't know much about shaw but in those scans he said he was amped from the explosion so... does that mean he gets the same deal here?

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't know much about shaw but in those scans he said he was amped from the explosion so... does that mean he gets the same deal here?


He absorbs kinetic energy and stuff. The more you hit him the stronger he gets. He can punch walls and build up his strength or order his men to just beat the living daylights out of him so he will get stronger and as you can see a claw to the back of the neck did nothing.

Shaw wins.


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What is Logan just stabs him in the face? A slash or blunt truama or a extreme heat force like a explosion is different from shoving a blade into his forehead. Unless he has some kind of healing ability that goes along with such punishment. Or is it just his brute strength and duribility that increases? Because I think if both chracters are at base. Logan aint gonna sit areong and let him punch the wall or something. Logan should if fights smartly just skewer his head. Again idk much about shaw I just want to get my fact straight before i make a decision.

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He can absorb a cut, a piercing blow and a thrusting blow from a blade. I like him because he is like a mini Juggernaut.

Shaw is a mutant with the unique ability to absorb kinetic energy to increase his strength, speed, and stamina to superhuman levels. He absorbs the energy of any blow he is struck by, not just punches, but bullets, and to a less successful degree, physically based energy beams, notably Cyclops' optic blasts. He is capable of absorbing the cutting, piercing and thrusting energy from a blade which makes it exceedingly difficult to cut or stab him with sharp edged weapons. Without absorbing energy he is merely a strong ordinary human, but normally Shaw works to keep his strength at a superhuman level. For example, in one instance, he was shown to spend time hitting a wall after waking in order to build up his power reserves. Shaw also can forego sleep if he receives enough kinetic energy. Often he will have his mercenaries pummel him so that he need not sleep for some time. As a way of aiding himself in combat, Shaw is adept at taunting, and will not let enemies realize his power until they have hit him one too many times. Shaw is so adept at turning an opponents attack to his advantage, members of the X-Men have learned the best way to defeat him is to remove him from the field of battle. The most dramatic example of which was when Rogue threw him hundreds of feet directly up into the air, essentially temporarily defeating him.


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Thanks Wei, that was great explaination... so Logan ftl smile

Hmmm.... then... how does one beat him (besides chucking him in the air)? Could a person with vastly superior physical stats be able to punch of shaws head off before he can absorb it or is it like instantaneous? Hence making him literally invincible to physical attack?

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damn, guy! the hell happened after that scan!?

anyway--shaw's often underrated. people seem to think it's 'easy' to overload him. he's come damn close to beating magneto straight up, 1on1. i like shaw. he showed his durability in taking that backstab from logan. i think it's the same deal as the logan vs abomination or any one-dimensional brawler--logan should logically be able to land a killing or incapacitating blow at some point if he isn't beaten down quickly enough. shaw's enough to beat him down, but can he do it before logan sticks a claw in his ear or eye?

always a tough call . . . erm


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No problem but I do believe that there is a limit on how much energy he can absorb, because if there wasn't then he could just hire Gambit to charge him into godly status. I believe that punches from the likes of Hulk and Juggernaut would eventually overload him. He also is prone to psionic attacks just like Juggernaut and you usually have to BFR him hence the mini-juggernaut. Those are some ways you could beat him, but sometimes you just gotta chuck a mofo into the sky.


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damn, guy! the hell happened after that scan!?

anyway--shaw's often underrated. people seem to think it's 'easy' to overload him. he's come damn close to beating magneto straight up, 1on1. i like shaw. he showed his durability in taking that backstab from logan. i think it's the same deal as the logan vs abomination or any one-dimensional brawler--logan should logically be able to land a killing or incapacitating blow at some point if he isn't beaten down quickly enough. shaw's enough to beat him down, but can he do it before logan sticks a claw in his ear or eye?

always a tough call . . . erm


Agreed, Shaw is underrated and it does take a lot for most to beat him. He is highly intelligent and can use that to his advantage in a fight.


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Originally posted by leonidas
damn, guy! the hell happened after that scan!?

anyway--shaw's often underrated. people seem to think it's 'easy' to overload him. he's come damn close to beating magneto straight up, 1on1. i like shaw. he showed his durability in taking that backstab from logan. i think it's the same deal as the logan vs abomination or any one-dimensional brawler--logan should logically be able to land a killing or incapacitating blow at some point if he isn't beaten down quickly enough. shaw's enough to beat him down, but can he do it before logan sticks a claw in his ear or eye?

always a tough call . . . erm


xavier tries to help daken, but he shrugs off the mental attack..he stabs ms. sinister and is about to kill xavier, logan shows

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Shaw can still drown though right?

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Shaw can still drown though right?


TBH IDK. I suppose yes and even though I'm a big fan of his I haven't seen him in a situation where he claimed he didn't have to breath. So as far as I know he does have to breath. With his reserved energy he could probably hold his breath longer at most, but I'm not sure.


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Shaw's debauchries are quite fitting...first he made Gambit charge his nipples now he dominates Wolverine and makes him fist himself. The Inner Circle is truly a sordid place. no expression

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So he supposedly beat him off panel?


Or he snuck into the mansion when the lights were off.


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Or he snuck into the mansion when the lights were off.


I like that outcome a lot better. Makes more sense too. Thanks Exodus.

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Whoever the writer was, apparently was to lazy to write what happened between Wolvie and Shaw. Way to not know wtf youre doing.:claps:


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Those are some ways you could beat him, but sometimes you just gotta chuck a mofo into the sky.


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