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DARKSIED with soul fire formula and all new god souls vs THANOS with IG

darksied as he was when he went up against the combined source/anti life entity {but no orion resurrection this time} vs thanos with the infinity gauntlett.

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Some might think this is a good matchup, but its definitely not.

Thanos walks over this match with little trouble.

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Some might think this is a good matchup, but its definitely not.

Thanos walks over this match with little trouble.

Your on drugs if you think he will do anything easily.

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OH NOEZ!!1
Not this shit again.

Abstract-level 'omnipotents' should be BANNED in this forum.
'Omnipotents' like Odin are acceptable stick out tongue.


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darkseid win this he was able to fight the source to a standstill. the IG gives you power on a universal scale but the source has power that is between universal/multiversal scale

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Your on drugs if you think he will do anything easily.


Darkseid was stalemating a Source that was less than full strength (seeing as the SF formula taps into that). Thanos easily dismissed Eternity, who like The Source contains all the power of all the universes within Its being.

And if you look at the exchange Warlock had with the LT during his time with the Gauntlet, it should be pretty clear that the IG would dismiss SF Darkseid as well.

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Darkseid was stalemating a Source that was less than full strength (seeing as the SF formula taps into that). Thanos easily dismissed Eternity, who like The Source contains all the power of all the universes within Its being.

And if you look at the exchange Warlock had with the LT during his time with the Gauntlet, it should be pretty clear that the IG would dismiss SF Darkseid as well.


Since when was Eternity equal to the source?


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Since when was Eternity equal to the source?


What's the Source's deal? Embodiment of all energy in the DCU, right?

Eternity has multiple showings where he's exactly that, too. I'm sure you've seen at least a few of Mr. Master's posts on the subject.

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What's the Source's deal? Embodiment of all energy in the DCU, right?

Eternity has multiple showings where he's exactly that, too. I'm sure you've seen at least a few of Mr. Master's posts on the subject.


Except the source isn't some dude that can be fought and then replaced.


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Except the source isn't some dude that can be fought and then replaced.


So Darkseid just wanted some exercise in DOTNG?

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the source created the new gods in it half state

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the source created the new gods in it half state


Yay for it? Eternity creates all universes within itself, continuously.


By statements, bios, and probably feats, The Source more or less equals Eternity. And Eternity ain't squat compared to Thanos w/ IG.

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So Darkseid just wanted some exercise in DOTNG?


That was merely how Superman interpreted what was happening. The IG is power unto itself so obviously Eternity doesn't have squat on the Source.


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The IG is power unto itself so obviously Eternity doesn't have squat on the Source.


Nice fallicious syllogism. The IG's power is the same as the HOTU, just external control of it rather than having it internally.

It'd be like me saying The Source doesn't have any power over Spectre or Michael or any of those beings so Eternity > Source.

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Nice fallicious syllogism. The IG's power is the same as the HOTU, just external control of it rather than having it internally.

It'd be like me saying The Source doesn't have any power over Spectre or Michael or any of those beings so Eternity > Source.


The Source is equal to HOTU and the IG by it's function. DS tapped into the Source's power through the loop hole of the New God souls via the SFE. He could not replace the Source because all power is linked to it, but he could impose his will upon it, in a way not even his father could.

EDIT: The source is the origin of the concept of energy it can't be replaced.


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The Source is equal to HOTU and the IG by it's function. DS tapped into the Source's power through the loop hole of the New God souls via the SFE. He could not replace the Source because all power is linked to it, but he could impose his will upon it, in a way not even his father could.


First of all, no. The Source =/= HOTU. It's less than. Unless you want to claim The Source would easily wreck LT. By virtually all statements of what each power does, The Source = Eternity.

And yeah, I already said, Darkseid was basically fighting a less than full strength Source, and could only stalemate it. He stances no chance against Thanos wielding the gauntlet.

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First of all, no. The Source =/= HOTU. It's less than. Unless you want to claim The Source would easily wreck LT. By virtually all statements of what each power does, The Source = Eternity.

And yeah, I already said, Darkseid was basically fighting a less than full strength Source, and could only stalemate it. He stances no chance against Thanos wielding the gauntlet.


Again, I said the Source is equal to HOTU by it's function. All energy regardless of its nature is linked to the Source. The fact that the IG could defeat Eternity just porves that Eternity is nothing like the Source, as the Source governs the very idea of energy and creation, it is an aspect of the Presence (the supreme being).


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According to darkseid the ALEs power was insignificant compared to the power he had with the soulfire formula,the ALE has obliterated an enemy who was linked and drawing power from all space time,eternity ain't got shit on the source or sf darkseid and thanos isn't doing a damn thing easily.

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Again, I said the Source is equal to HOTU by it's function. All energy regardless of its nature is linked to the Source. The fact that the IG could defeat Eternity just porves that Eternity is nothing like the Source, as the Source governs the very idea of energy and creation, it is an aspect of the Presence (the supreme being).


Lucifer and Michael were shown to be beyond The Source's power. Spectre and probably Radiant and anyone tied to The Presence's power would probably be, too. So no...

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According to darkseid the ALEs power was insignificant compared to the power he had with the soulfire formula,the ALE has obliterated an enemy who was linked and drawing power from all space time,eternity ain't got shit on the source or sf darkseid and thanos isn't doing a damn thing easily.


Yeah! The SFE was Darkseid's link to the Source which governs the idea of energy. If Eternity is getting defeated by another energy, then he obviously isn't on the same level as the source, which as I've already stated is an aspect of the Presence and the ultimate authority on the concept of energy and creation.


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