Do you mean Hyperman from the 'Kingdom' series? If so, his power should be ridiculously uber, in theory. However, he never did anything on panel, aside from talk (ie. he simply can't compare to the others, feat-wise). That said, this really comes down to MJJ vs. Mxy - and Mxy would take that battle every time, imo.
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Yea ok, Mxy may or may not be able to defeat MJJ in combat,
but he's certainly not depowering him.
Mxy is not Marvel's supreme being to depowering MJJ.
Easier said than done,
I mean, it's not like MJJ is just gonna stand there and allow that.
Fury was nearly immune to Jasper's warp, (it's in the character's powerset)
this is the only reason Fury lasted long enough and was able to teleport JJ to un-space.
Mxy is far more powerful than Fury of course,
buit so was Matrix/Merlyn, who had power over all time/space just like Mxy,
yet Merlyn was unseless against MJJ. (both 238 and the far more powerful 616)
So you see,
it's not a matter of Mxy or whoever being able to reduce time/space to nothing,
because Merlyn was capable of the same thing, and still was powerless against MJJ, because MJJ was not God of time/space,
MJJ was GOD withIN his warp, and the area his warp spread to,
and in the Marvelverse, ONLY one thing was able to stop him,
and that was his personal plot device (Fury)
Who wins?
... Mxy nut huggers will say Mxy ... MJJ butt breakers will say MJJ,
but in the end, no one can prove anything.
Only one fact stands,
several characters have defeated Mxy in some form,
while only one character (literally a plot device) has ever defeated MJJ.
* ... and according to the arc,
it WAS only Fury that was literally able to stop Jaspers.
(while matrix/Merlyn's omniversal power or reality nullifier could not)
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Wasn't MJJ killed by teleporting him to where Furys old reality was? And since there was no reality there he was powerless right? So why couldn't Mxy just do that himself? Or just blink out the marvel universe or wherever they were fighthing at out of existence? If MJJ needs reality for power and Mxy can do w/e he wants I don't see why it would take him long to end the fight. As far as Fury being the only one that could stop MJJ....mxy can travel between Marvel and DC and retains his full power sets in both places. So if we take Mxy at his full power (which he hasn't shown a limit to what he can actually do) I see him taking it easily. I could be wrong. Maybe Mxy can't destroy entire realities and everything that makes them up...but I'm pretty sure he's done it. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...=mxy+forumid:98
oh yea and like i've said before it's not really fair putting mxy in a versus match unless you state a limit on his powers. He hasn't shown a limit to what he can do and only ever loses to lesser people because he's Mxy and not a serious character in the DCU. With the powers he randomly shows he shouldn't be able to be beaten by anyone in any comic (being as he's been written as being an actual real character in our world who maintains all of his super powers in the real world).
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I see you totally ignored why that was possible by the Fury.
Again, uyou must be under the impression that anyone can just bfr MJJ,
which is kinda funny.
Because Mxy is not the Fury.
Please read my first post, so we don't dance in circles.
Again, I don't know if you know the details about MJJ, (I believe you do not)
but what makes you think MJJ is just gonna stand there and allow that?
Destroying the reality 616 MJJ is in, is impossible according to his story.
Uhhm, Matrix/Merlyn was able to do anything w/e he wants with reality,
yet, he was powerless against Jaspers.
You better bring a better argument than that.
Goodness,
please don't tell me you're gonna try
and pull out silly self-contained cross-overs to prove that ridiculous statement,
Please, no, just no.
Imo, you're wrong.
In Marvel,
unlimited power can be dwarfed by a greater scale of unlimited power.
This is why MJJ > Matrix/Merlyn
Don't really know what that proves.
Again, I don't think you understand,
Matrix/Merlyn fused the life-force of the entire Omniverse into tiny crystals,
to be disposed of when ever he wished,
he created a freakin Omniversal Nexus (Starlight Citadel) from nothingness,
a weapon (CN) that can erase any Universe in the Omniverse,
should I go on?
And yet, all that incredible power was beneath MJJ.
... Ok, either you're being funny, or you're not to be taken seriously.
Either way,
if you bring this nonsense into a debate with me
'll be forced to ignore the discussion,
since I don't have the time to debate in comedy.
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Forum rules: take the character at full power. So that brings up the question what to consider canon for mxy and what not to. Since mxy has shown he exist in all of the DC universes and remembers what he did in other issues I'd assume it should all be considered canon. As far as him crossing over to other companies...did you actually look at Mxy's respect thread I posted a link to? According to OHOTMU Impossible Man knows who mxy is. But we're to assume that for some reason, despite the fact theres no on panel evidence to support your claim that Mxy couldn't destroy that multiverse that he just can't b/c it's MJJ? Like I already stated (and you subsequently ignored) if you look at mxy's feats then he's above every other character in DC and Marvel. Unless MJJ is able to retcon and pimp slap the writers? And yes I know that it's just a humorous depiction of mxy's powers and he's not really real. But the fact is in the comic they write him as if he is. I've already tried arguing this with you before and you never seemed to understand it so I'm going to assume either you're not as smart as you let on, or you just full heartedly hate Mxy (basing this from the Mxy "nuthugger" comment you already made). But please do come back and explain to me exactly why Mxy can't do any of what I said he could that he's shown to be able to do on panel....I'd like to know how you refute the power the writers gave mxy. Like I've said before Mxy fully powered and not being used as a plot device can destroy anything he wants (including the comic he's written in). Oh and Mxy can't be killed :-/ he just comes back (he depowered himself so he could die and in the end still came back to life with full powers again).
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And?
I could care less about respect threads,
I rather read the issue/arc myself and get the details personally.
btw.
Nothing in that respect thread tells me Mxy can jump into a true Marvel issue,
that's significant to continuity.
False, Mxy's name is never mentioned in any Marvel Handbook.
And also, by your logic,
Impossible Man knows who Mxy is too,
does this make IM = Mxy?
Better yet, according ot other garbage cross-overs,
DC heroes know Marvel heroes and vice versa,
big
This stuopidity of course is always and ONLY contained withIn said crossovers,
and no way shape or form affect true Marvel continuity.
But we're to assume that for some reason,
despite the fact theres no on panel evidence to support your claim
that Mxy could destroy the Marvel multiverse Jaspers is in,
or the Marvel multiverse at all?
Dude, you're killin me.
So, MJJ creates his own She-Hulk,
and She-Hulk forces Mxy's writers to make him a chump,
MJJ ftw.
See how dumb that is?
Seriously, get this nonsense out of here dogs.
I also called myself an MJJ "butt breaker" (meaning I teased myself likewise)
"not as smart" as I let on?
Right, coming from the guy who thinks Mxy was in the real world,
the guy who doesn't know that's NOT the real world in World's Funnest,
dude ...
that's a freakin photographic image representing 3 locations in the world,
these images are confined withIN panels in a comic book I can stomp, tear & burn,
where Mxy/Batmite would be annihilated,
and Mxy/Batmite themselves are obviously cartoonish images within said panels.
So please, don't try and make me understand how this is real.
Mxy can do whatever he's done in DC ... in DC.
But this isn't in DC, this is neutral ground unless alternatives are specified,
which means both character's history/powersets come into play
(excluding 4th Wall comedy, unless specified)
and MJJ's history/powerset tells us that no one can defeat save for Fury.
That's the fact that can't be countered.
I'd like to know how you refute the power the writers gave MJJ?
... Please show me proof of Mxy destroying the comic book he's in.
If you can do that, I'll concede.
Mr Immortal can't be killed either, yet he can't even lift a car.
That aside, this isn't an immortality contest, it's a battle.