Right, yeah, you're right, I just messed up writing... I meant to say "without."
Like, the end of Civil War, after Matt got back in the costume, and he and Danny fought: Matt was winning and then Danny lit up the Iron Fist.... and then Matt immediately realized he didn't stand a chance.
I would honestly state that Daredevil is one of the very greatest hand-to-hand fighters... without non-superhuman boosts, like chi, or Karate Kid knowledge, or Shiva/Richard Dragon-insanity.
Basically, what that means, is that if Daredevil was going to fight Danny Rand right before Danny faced the Dragon, Matt would win. But if was to encounter Danny on the street at any other time... it would be an awful loss.
Actually, that's one of the reasons to love Daredevil. Like Batman, he's pretty much the best a human can get without going into crazy "mystical sci-fi kung-fu" realms.
Last edited by tjcoady on Apr 5th, 2009 at 09:49 AM
If we're talking the Iron Fist thats portrayed in Daredevils comic, no way he can beat them both by himself.
Also, in regards to the brief scuffle they had after civil war, Danny was using a combination of both his(save for the if itself in the beginning) and DD's style.
To: tjcoady. "then Danny lit up the Iron Fist.... and then Matt immediately realized he didn't stand a chance." What makes you say this? Danny lit up the if and took a swing and DD dodged it. They BOTH then realized who each were fighting and stopped.