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"Id"
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Orion vs. Beta Ray Bill (Pure Brawl).

Who takes it?

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Pure brawl? As in no weapons? If so, Orion.

Really, I'd take Orion even if BRB had Stormbreaker.

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Pure brawl? As in no weapons? If so, Orion.

Really, I'd take Orion even if BRB had Stormbreaker.

Bill keeps his hammer.

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So, what does Orion get?

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So, what does Orion get?

Orion gets a jump suit, and a mouth piece.

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Orion, then. wink

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Beta Ray Bill wins. With Stormbreaker, it's unfair.

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Beta Ray Bill wins. With Stormbreaker, it's unfair.

Any reasons?

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Any reasons?

He's Uber!

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Any reasons?

Beta Ray Bill without his hammer is a power house as it is. With it, he wins.

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Beta Ray Bill without his hammer is a power house as it is. With it, he wins.

How is he a more powerhouse than Orion?

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How is he a more powerhouse than Orion?

Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.

Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.

With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.

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Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.

Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.

With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.

Without Orion's gear, he was able to stand up to Superman (Amped), Darkseid, and knocked down Kalibak with one move in the later appearances.

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Darkseid jobs a lot so it doesn't matter.

Superman amped?

To what degree?

The original Beta Ray Bill could hang with Thor to an extent, meaning he can obviously hang with the likes of Superman, Orion etc.

Throw in the fact that Beta Ray Thor has Stormbreaker and is more powerful, and he wins this fight evidently.

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Darkseid jobs a lot so it doesn't matter.

Superman amped?

To what degree?

The original Beta Ray Bill could hang with Thor to an extent, meaning he can obviously hang with the likes of Superman, Orion etc.

Throw in the fact that Beta Ray Thor has Stormbreaker and is more powerful, and he wins this fight evidently.

In the Dominus arc, I believe Superman was amped to a degree. The only one who could have gone toe to toe with him was Orion, so they sent him. Barda played a distraction as well, but that wasn't the only time Orion has faced Superman.

Orion fared pretty well, when Superman was brainwashed. Orion even smacked Superman around and feared to use his Astro Force. With it, he took down Superman in Superman Confidential.

Orion is clearly a better fighter than Bill and has even demonstrated it against Valkyrie, Darkseid (who had respect at the time), and has even fought in the fire pits, which is a lot hotter than the sun itself. Orion has incredible durability.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Without his hammer, Beta Ray Bill was able to hang with Thor.

Orion taking down the original Beta Ray Bill, would be a very good fight. Orion will have to work for it, and he will be hard pressed to win.

With Stormbreaker, Beta Ray Bill, better known as Beta Ray Thor is even more powerful from what I understand and give him the striking power of Stormbreaker, and Orion goes down.

What are you, drunk?

BRB can hang with Thor sans his hammer. With their hammers they're roughly equals, only Thor's feats trump his.

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BTW, for what it's worth, Simonson has gone on record as saying Orion can take apart Thor. I know various other writers as saying Orion > Superman in strength as well.

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In the Dominus arc, I believe Superman was amped to a degree. The only one who could have gone toe to toe with him was Orion, so they sent him. Barda played a distraction as well, but that wasn't the only time Orion has faced Superman.

Orion fared pretty well, when Superman was brainwashed. Orion even smacked Superman around and feared to use his Astro Force. With it, he took down Superman in Superman Confidential.

Orion is clearly a better fighter than Bill and has even demonstrated it against Valkyrie, Darkseid (who had respect at the time), and has even fought in the fire pits, which is a lot hotter than the sun itself. Orion has incredible durability.

What does this all prove?

Superman recently stalemated Orion even with his gear.

Those two are near equals.

Beta Ray Thor can hang with the likes of Thor, and other power houses. He was born in scorching heat. It's where he thrives.

Either way, Beta Ray Thor with Stormbreaker, would defeat Superman in a hand to hand fight. Orion is no different.

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Apr 24th, 2009 06:58 PM

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BTW, for what it's worth, Simonson has gone on record as saying Orion can take apart Thor. I know various other writers as saying Orion > Superman in strength as well.

According to Walter, lava etc. is fatal to Thor, so really I don't care what he thinks of Thor.

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