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Wolverine vs Batman vs Captain america H2H ONLY

Batman with no gadgets, Captain America with no shield, and Logan with no Claws or healing factor. He still gets his Adamatium bones. This is pure H2H skill. Who is the better martial artist?


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Either Batman or Cap because Wolverine wouldn't survive having an adamantium skeleton without his hf.
In terms of MA skills I believe Logan and Cap are more experienced than Batman, but this is a very close fight. They all stand an equel chance.


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Either Batman or Cap because Wolverine wouldn't survive having an adamantium skeleton without his hf.


It wouldn't take him out instantly.


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Ok Ok....Wolvie does not have Adamantium.
Forget all the details, just Who is the most skilled martial artist.


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Re: Wolverine vs Batman vs Captain america H2H ONLY

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Batman with no gadgets, Captain America with no shield, and Logan with no Claws or healing factor. He still gets his Adamatium bones. This is pure H2H skill. Who is the better martial artist?
Under the conditions of the match Captain america is the clear winner . Wolverine would be better of without his adamantium without his healing factor his adamantium becomes a liability.

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Ok Ok....Wolvie does not have Adamantium.
Forget all the details, just Who is the most skilled martial artist.


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in hand to hand logan is by far rhe most knowledgeable and dealiest of the three.

wolverine
bats
cap

logan is also well versed in pressure point attacks that can kill and is faster then both of them in reflex especially without the adamantium.


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in hand to hand logan is by far rhe most knowledgeable and dealiest of the three.

wolverine
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logan is also well versed in pressure point attacks that can kill and is faster then both of them in reflex especially without the adamantium.


I'm pretty sure ALL three of them can use pressure point attacks..


I'm super biased so I pull for Bats because he still has the suit.. but Cap is clever too and has super serum, so either one of them. Logan's the weak link without his healing factor.


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I'm pretty sure ALL three of them can use pressure point attacks..


I'm super biased so I pull for Bats because he still has the suit.. but Cap is clever too and has super serum, so either one of them. Logan's the weak link without his healing factor.



not really one hit from logan will literally crumble the two into a pile rocks.

wolverine can see and or sense the weak points in bats armor. just like the inhuman dude.


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not really one hit from logan will literally crumble the two into a pile rocks.

wolverine can see and or sense the weak points in bats armor. just like the inhuman dude.


...What the f**k?


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Batman's the most skilled martial artist, IMO. Mastery of at least 127 main martial art forms.


I think Captain America would beat him for a majority because of his higher physical stats. With his HF, so would Logan. Without it, I'd probably give the advantage to Batman over Wolverine.

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...What the f**k?



http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/...ros_DCP_016.jpg



:P yeah logan can see sense pressure points

if you want to use the 127 known forms i have to point out that wolverine knows most of the worlds martial arts both armed and unarmed combat as well as extraterrestial combat. as listed in his bio.


now i think most ppl are also forgetting that wolverine is physically stronger then either his opponent strong enough to kill and or decapitate them with a punch or kick this is even without the adamantium.


the x men ecyclopedia has him listed as a level 4 strength on par with sabe whih has bn demostrated in comics.


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One thing that always strikes me odd, is that while Logan has apparently all of this skill and mastered arts of hand to hand combat, he rarely utilizes it. Rather he just either beserkers or just claws and slashes. I know he can use the skill, it just seems like he doesn't.

I think Cap would be the favorite due to his physical superiority. Batman would be next in line because of his skill set, with Logan coming in third.

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so this has less to do with what the characters are capable of and more to do with who we like .. hmmmm.


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Bats and Cap for the tie.


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so this has less to do with what the characters are capable of and more to do with who we like .. hmmmm.


I don't think it's that; it's just that for most of the part, Logan doesn't really use his skill set. We all know he has it, he just doesn't use it. For almost every panel of Logan using actual martial arts, you have three to five times as many of him just clawing and hacking away. It's hard to assume a character will use a skill/power/ability that they don't rely on very often. That's just my opinion on the matter, anyway.

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:P yeah logan can see sense pressure points


Ehh.... no. That scan does not prove Logan can see or sense weak spots.

And if anything, it just proves that his martial arts experience allowed him to find that opening and exploit it, NOT that he has this supernatural ability to sense weak spots, ala Karnak.


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Ehh.... no. That scan does not prove Logan can see or sense weak spots.

And if anything, it just proves that his martial arts experience allowed him to find that opening and exploit it, NOT that he has this supernatural ability to sense weak spots, ala Karnak.




i only showed him using the attack but if you want you can check the respect thread where he is being trained to see and sense the weak spots ala karnak style.


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I don't think it's that; it's just that for most of the part, Logan doesn't really use his skill set. We all know he has it, he just doesn't use it. For almost every panel of Logan using actual martial arts, you have three to five times as many of him just clawing and hacking away. It's hard to assume a character will use a skill/power/ability that they don't rely on very often. That's just my opinion on the matter, anyway.


On panel it looks like "ROOOOARRRR!!!", but actually it was stated that he does use his skill.


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