I'm curious not just in terms of raw power who could beat who, but also how much the Runner's "charm" might play into taking the fight (the hate?) out of Mangog.
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Shinier than a speeding bullet.
I agree but with mangogs durability, I think flash punch would be nothing but a tickle to him.
Again, mangog speed was ridiculous and he could get ahold of runner. Runner have no way of winning this battle besides bfr whereas mangog could literally just rip runner in half.
Of course he overpowered surfer, he used his charm against him throughout the entire fight. Surfer even brought up that he was under some kind of effect during his confrontation with runner.
Firelord has overpowered surfer on numerous of occasions but is still listed as a 70 tonner.
I know. Surfer's still a class +100 though, and Runner matched his strength strait up and got the better of Norrin. That's a +100 feat.
Firelord's NEVER physically overpowered Surfer. He's got a win to his credit sure, but he never overpowered Surfer the way the Runner did. And Firelord can amp his strength with the Power Cosmic just like all of Galactus's heralds can, a 70 ton rating is way off for someone who's gone toe to toe with guys like Hercules and Thor.
Though it was non-canon, I believe Surfer beat Mangog via the "sheer nobility" of his soul. Does non-canon mean this could happen but just never officially did, or that it just flat-out couldn't happen at all (ie, such a tactic would never defeat Mangog). If the former, then I would think Runner's charm would have some effect on Mangog, even if (for the sake of argument) physically one could not defeat the other.
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Shinier than a speeding bullet.
he's like a slightly amped classic silver surfer who fights like the flash, and is totally immortal and tireless. i don't think he could beat either mangog, but he isn't a sitting duck either.
if i knew what it would take to ko or even hurt the runner, then i would give the majority to mangog most likely.