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Silver Surfer vs The Flash

Wally West.

Hand to hand only.

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Is Wally allowed to steal speed, or use all his speed??


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Re: Silver Surfer vs The Flash

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Wally West.

Hand to hand only.

Go.


No speed stealing.


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Re: Re: Silver Surfer vs The Flash

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No speed stealing.

Either way, SS losses.


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just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.


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You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.

I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.


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just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.


What if Wally puts SS in an arm-bar?


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i think he's saying that if they are both moving faster than light side by side (as many fights play out by fast characters), the punches the flash would land on surfer wouldn't be the same as they would be to a slow-stationary opponent, he would lose out even further due to surfer's natural superior durability against a human fist.

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imo. surfer would be able to percieve the flash's movements at high speed, but on the off chance he gets hurt by a flash blitz (provided he's near the ground) and not ko'd, flash wouldn't be able to pull off a second one.


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just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.
all punching power stems from momentum technically...


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think he's saying that if they are both moving faster than light side by side (as many fights play out by fast characters), the punches the flash would land on surfer wouldn't be the same as they would be to a slow-stationary opponent, he would lose out even further due to surfer's natural superior durability against a human fist.
no...if this was true and surfer was capable of such...then he could do the same to anyone's punches, not just flashes


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^ not many people punch surfer without super strength and durability.
flash needs his speed to cause massive impact.


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^ not many people punch surfer without super strength and durability.
flash needs his speed to cause massive impact.

For real. If She Hulk hurt her hand on Surfer then I think that Flash is going to end up with some busted knuckles if the excess speed is taken away...


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You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.

I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.
I don't agree that Surfer overwhelms Flash HtH. But Surfer has enough reflex feats to counter the notion that Flash would win a majority based only on speed blitzes. Surfer can react to him.

I think that there is both DC and Marvel bias on this board. Everyone brings their bias.


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Flash wins. As long as it's Wally or Bart.

Barry would get bent over.

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You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.

I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.


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you're . . . having some trouble today, eh? anywho, see gundam's reply. as far as the dc bias--you want a dc guy to win, stop pitting them against guys who are out of their league. erm

if you seriously don't think ss can fight in or near the same frame of speed as flash, you, well . . .

as a normal guy (which is what flash would be when fighting someone who is traveling near his OWN speed) flash could land a million blows and it wouldn't mean jack to surfer. meanwhile, ss only needs to hit him one and it's over.


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Flash wins. As long as it's Wally or Bart.

Barry would get bent over.


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^ not many people punch surfer without super strength and durability.
flash needs his speed to cause massive impact.


indeed.


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laughing out loud

you're . . . having some trouble today, eh? anywho, see gundam's reply. as far as the dc bias--you want a dc guy to win, stop pitting them against guys who are out of their league. erm

if you seriously don't think ss can fight in or near the same frame of speed as flash, you, well . . .

as a normal guy (which is what flash would be when fighting someone who is traveling near his OWN speed) flash could land a million blows and it wouldn't mean jack to surfer. meanwhile, ss only needs to hit him one and it's over.

Didn't you hear? Surfer speed and reflexes gets cut exponentially when he's off his board laughing out loud .


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Didn't you hear? Surfer speed and reflexes gets cut exponentially when he's off his board laughing out loud .


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