Is Wally allowed to steal speed, or use all his speed??
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just h2h? again, flash's punching power stems from the momentum he gains by his overwhelming speed. if they are fighting same frame of speed or close to it, wally's punches won't do a thing to ss. even if he landed a 10,000 to ss's 1, his 10 000 wouldn't do jack to someone with ss's durability, and ss's one would disintegrate flash.
You heard it gentlemen. Surfer is capable of fighting h2h at the same frame of speed as Flash so that 10000 punches wouldn't do anything to Surfer who then lands one and owns Flash.
I'll E-slap anybody who ever says that this board is DC biased.
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Last edited by Philosophía on Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:30 PM
i think he's saying that if they are both moving faster than light side by side (as many fights play out by fast characters), the punches the flash would land on surfer wouldn't be the same as they would be to a slow-stationary opponent, he would lose out even further due to surfer's natural superior durability against a human fist.
imo. surfer would be able to percieve the flash's movements at high speed, but on the off chance he gets hurt by a flash blitz (provided he's near the ground) and not ko'd, flash wouldn't be able to pull off a second one.
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Last edited by psycho gundam on Jun 30th, 2009 at 10:33 PM
For real. If She Hulk hurt her hand on Surfer then I think that Flash is going to end up with some busted knuckles if the excess speed is taken away...
I don't agree that Surfer overwhelms Flash HtH. But Surfer has enough reflex feats to counter the notion that Flash would win a majority based only on speed blitzes. Surfer can react to him.
I think that there is both DC and Marvel bias on this board. Everyone brings their bias.
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you're . . . having some trouble today, eh? anywho, see gundam's reply. as far as the dc bias--you want a dc guy to win, stop pitting them against guys who are out of their league.
if you seriously don't think ss can fight in or near the same frame of speed as flash, you, well . . .
as a normal guy (which is what flash would be when fighting someone who is traveling near his OWN speed) flash could land a million blows and it wouldn't mean jack to surfer. meanwhile, ss only needs to hit him one and it's over.