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Wolverine vs Thor

a) Wolverine vs Thor with hammer, no lightning or long range attacks
b) Wolverine vs Thor no hammer.

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Uh
Yeah.... it IS what it does. no expression

Wolverine was nimbly avoiding Thor during the melee confrontation. Dodging Thor's fiercest blows (yeah that sounds like he's holding back), and commenting in disbelief at Wolverine's speed. He even flat out admits he has to change tactics because his durability won't hold out forever in the h2h fight...
I don't know how much more it could have been emphasized to help illustrate the point that Wolverine was faster. But you know better don'tcha?

And yeah, multiple times it's been argued whether or not Wolverine could cut Thor, period.

And yeah Wolverine can take Thor's shots... aside from the fact that his entire career fighting bricks would support this, we see Thor give him a double fisted hammer strike and Wolverine's immediately getting up... Was Thor AT THAT POINT holding back cause it sure didn't appear that way when he blasted Logan right after. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Yeah Wolverine can beat Thor in a melee confrontation... as was displayed... Thor's "advantage won't last forever" is pretty damned conclusive evidence that he didn't think he was about to win otherwise in a long term battle and he innadvertantly admits he's not only trying to hit Wolverine but trying to do it with his fiercest blows.... but you know better don'tcha?

Typical Wolvie hatin' at it's best, ignore the parts that make wolverine look good while reading into crap that isn't there to suggest he didn't do as well as he looked on panel... *yawn*


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oh please..... bunny

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So both are melee scenarios?

a) Wolverine 6/10
b) Wolverine, 8/10


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Yes.


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Wolverines Combat speed/reactions are apparently in a league above Thors.

Thor loses, being a God, is akin to being a vampire in the marvel universe. They're just titles and mean close to nothing.

Thor can't win here, Logan out damages, outlasts, out manuvers, out fights, he plain out does Thor in every physical catagory bar strength.


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Realistically? Thor


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Thor anytime. One punch from Namor took him ouThor won't have much trouble

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Realistically? Thor


slash across the eyes says it's game over, and by Thors own admition he has serious trouble hitting wolverine in a melee confrontation.


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Wolverines Combat speed/reactions are apparently in a league above Thors.

Thor loses, being a God, is akin to being a vampire in the marvel universe. They're just titles and mean close to nothing.

Thor can't win here, Logan out damages, outlasts, out manuvers, out fights, he plain out does Thor in every physical catagory bar strength.


Thats not actually what the scans showed. It didn't show that he was leagues faster. There are also scans which show Thor being able to handle people with FTL speed.


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Thats not actually what the scans showed. It didn't show that he was leagues faster. There are also scans which show Thor being able to handle people with FTL speed.


Well what is it? He can either stop people who arfe moving at ftl speed, or he Can't hit an agile Wolverine. If either of those is true, than the Other MUST be PIS...


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Well what is it? He can either stop people who arfe moving at ftl speed, or he Can't hit an agile Wolverine. If either of those is true, than the Other MUST be PIS...



Um he can hit an agile Wolverine.


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slash across the eyes says it's game over, and by Thors own admition he has serious trouble hitting wolverine in a melee confrontation.



No he wasn't thats an exaggeration. First of all he was holding back, secondly he stated that his durability could resist Wolverines claws. Just because he stated that it wouldn't last forever doesnt mean the fight would be over in seconds.


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writers tend to write all this kind of crap. Like Deathstrroke triping Flash.

I don't think there is anyone who believes that Flash has problems dodging or tagging DS due to this incident

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Um he can hit an agile Wolverine.
just about, thats what i got from the fight, it didnt look like wolverine was giving it his best either and Thor was still had trouble.


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No he wasn't thats an exaggeration. First of all he was holding back, secondly he stated that his durability could resist Wolverines claws. Just because he stated that it wouldn't last forever doesnt mean the fight would be over in seconds.


again, from the scan i saw wolverine get off -1- good rib slash and lo and behold, at the end of the fight Thor was bleeding from the rib. 1 slash, 1 bleeding wound, and that was through armro, (if thor wears any there, could just be clothing). From that fight, anyone would deduce that one clean eye slash would result in temp blindness for the duration of the fight.

He got slashed...and was bleeding..durability be damned. :/


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just about, thats what i got from the fight, it didnt look like wolverine was giving it his best either and Thor was still had trouble.


Wolverine thought he was Creed which means he was trying to kill him. Thor blocked a suprise attack from Wolverine, managed to grab his leg and connected with a hammer blow. That doesn't mean he can't hit Wolverine that means he would have some problems but Wolverine would still get hit.


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again, from the scan i saw wolverine get off -1- good rib slash and lo and behold, at the end of the fight Thor was bleeding from the rib. 1 slash, 1 bleeding wound, and that was through armro, (if thor wears any there, could just be clothing). From that fight, anyone would deduce that one clean eye slash would result in temp blindness for the duration of the fight.


He might not even decide to do that how many times has he fought bricks and not done that. I could argue that Thor could win via BFR, or that he could have hit harder. Thor was clearly holding back. You notice how one hammer blow had Wolverine on the floor and he didn't get up to dodge the lightning?

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He got slashed...and was bleeding..durability be damned. :/


Um Thor said it wasn't significant damage.


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Um Thor said it wasn't significant damage.


obviously it wasnt deep, thats not what i said. How deep does a wound to the eye s have to be to make them usless? Not very..id bet the same type of slash Thor recieved to the side, would have blinded him if it was across the eyes..and then what?


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asssuming there's no bfr, wolverine could take majority in both scenarios.

thor would find it hard to put wolverine down, whereas Wolverine could inflict significant damage on thor with slash to the eyes or other sensitive regions


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Thor only needs a punch in the head.

Namor hit him jusy once to black him out


just saying...

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Um Thor said it wasn't significant damage.


Foolish warrior Pride.
Thor fights like an Warrior, brawling with pride. Wolverin is an martial arts expert. Weapon X was made to take out the Hulk. And he does pretty well in most of their encounters, at least he holds his ground for a while.
Against Red Hulk he did pretty well and even WWH needed some time to beat Logan.
With only his strength, his durability and his fighting skills I wouldn't give Thor the majority.
Strength is in Thors favours but he will need more hits then WWH before logan will go down.
Durability goes also to Thor. His skin and his armor might soften the dmg but not forever and even then not as good as WWH skin.
Speed, i think that Wolverine has the edge in here, sneaky bastard. Thor might fight opponents or tag them even on ftl speed, a lot of people do but still they get owned by enemies who aren't that fast. Except for the Flash, where it is PIS, it's just for the sake of the story.
Fighting Skills, Wolverine hands down. Yeah Thor is a great fighter with thousands years of battle experience but still just a warrior. Wolverine uses another kind of fighting technique, an more advanced one, it's superior to that of Thor. Or doesn anybody really think that an Viking Warrior from the past is an better h2h fighter then the best martial artist?

If Wolverine goes for the eyes and succeeds he will win, like against RULK big grin.

1. Wolverine 6/10 (because Mjolnir can be used to block the attacks)
2 Wolverine 8/10

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Thor only needs a punch in the head.

Namor hit him jusy once to black him out


just saying...
WWH had to punch wolverine several times in a row to KO logan

WWH is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Namor

Wolverine's taken far more than one Namor punch to be put down.

so get that PIS outta here.


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Wolverine actually did better against Rulk than either Thor or Hulk.


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