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Army busting level?

How would you rank each of the following in terms of how well they'd fare against a united Earth's military forces?

0: none
1: Medieval world's armies busting level
2: Enlightenment world's armies busting level
3: WW2 world's armies busting level
4: Modern world's armies busting level
5: Star Wars galaxy's armies busting level

Note: by army I also mean air/navy/etc.

Daredevil
Captain America
Wolverine
Spiderman
Thing
Hercules
Sue
Storm
Iron Man
Savage Hulk
WW Hulk
Thor
Superman
Silver Surfer
Odin
Exitar


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Re: Army busting level?

Daredevil-0
Captain America-0.5
Wolverine-2
Spiderman-1.5
Thing-2.5
Hercules-2.5
Sue-?
Storm-0.5
Iron Man-2.5
Savage Hulk-3
WW Hulk-3.5
Thor-4
Superman-4
Silver Surfer-4.5
Odin-4.5
Exitar-5
The main factor here is durability. Cap does better than DD thanks to his shield but he has plenty of weakspots and I can't see him taking down an entire medieval army by himself, eventually he would tire out and get overwhelmed.

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Savage Hulk & WWH woud walk on modern armies too

same for Hercules

dunno about Thing

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Re: Army busting level?

united Earth's military forces? by army I also mean air/navy/etc.

Daredevil - 0
Captain America - 0
Wolverine - 0
Spiderman - 0
Thing - 2
Hercules - 2
Sue - 0
Storm - 0
Iron Man - 2
Savage Hulk - 3
WW Hulk - 3
Thor - 3
Superman - 3
Silver Surfer - 3
Odin - 4
Exitar.......

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Thor
Superman
Silver Surfer
Odin
Exitar


nothing stops them imo, Thor maybe but the rest is unbeatable for these (only watched the Star Wars movies though)


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nothing stops them imo, Thor maybe but the rest is unbeatable for these (only watched the Star Wars movies though)


Thor - How fast can Thor travel again? Because couldn't the star destroyers pummel him from hundreds of thousands of miles away (and they can produce firepower in the millions of atom bombs per shot) and then jump to hyperspace when he gets to them? And then come back again...and so on? What about the Sun Crusher that makes stars go nova?

Superman - See above, also he couldn't literally defeat SW in a war since Superman won't be able to travel fast enough - 99.99% the speed of light still isn't fast enough to get across a galaxy in a reasonable amount of time.

Silver Surfer - possibly

Odin - well, if he just destroys the galaxy...

Exitar - definately


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Thor - How fast can Thor travel again? Because couldn't the star destroyers pummel him from hundreds of thousands of miles away (and they can produce firepower in the millions of atom bombs per shot) and then jump to hyperspace when he gets to them? And then come back again...and so on? What about the Sun Crusher that makes stars go nova?

Superman - See above, also he couldn't literally defeat SW in a war since Superman won't be able to travel fast enough - 99.99% the speed of light still isn't fast enough to get across a galaxy in a reasonable amount of time.

Silver Surfer - possibly

Odin - well, if he just destroys the galaxy...

Exitar - definately


IDK what a sun crusher is but the death star can't just fire like a machine gun it needs to charge, so in a scenario where all of them really fight for their lives I don't think the death star is pretty useful


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IDK what a sun crusher is
non canon stick out tongue its part of expanded universe or somethin

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SOme of the advanced Star Wars war tech could cause real problems, like the Galaxy Gun for example...


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Originally posted by SoulDevourer
non canon stick out tongue its part of expanded universe or somethin


Dude, the expanded universe is canon, this is STATED by George Lucas, plus many of the events in the EU directly relate to the movies (the reason why Grevious coughs so much in Revenge of the Sith is that Mace Windu crushed his lungs in the clone wars cartoon, which is part of the EU, one of the scenes in A New Hope where the heroes escape is explained in an EU book)

I'd say that Exitar, possibly Odin and MAYBE Silver Surfer clear all 5


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IDK what a sun crusher is but the death star can't just fire like a machine gun it needs to charge, so in a scenario where all of them really fight for their lives I don't think the death star is pretty useful

The Death Star was really less of a practical weapon and more a weapon of terror and expression of Palpatine's great ego.

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Dude, the expanded universe is canon, this is STATED by George Lucas, plus many of the events in the EU directly relate to the movies (the reason why Grevious coughs so much in Revenge of the Sith is that Mace Windu crushed his lungs in the clone wars cartoon, which is part of the EU, one of the scenes in A New Hope where the heroes escape is explained in an EU book)

I'd say that Exitar, possibly Odin and MAYBE Silver Surfer clear all 5


Then explain what a suncrusher is smile maybe I'll change my mind, from what I've seen in the movies I'll stay with my opinion


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The Death Star was really less of a practical weapon and more a weapon of terror and expression of Palpatine's great ego.


Uh no, this book called Star Wars: Death Star (and the books ARE canon if approved by Lucas and is not fan fic/a what if) shows people with experience in the military saying that the Death Star once constructed might render "modern" warfare obsolete.

Think about it...with the Death Star, you could simply go to your enemy's capital and blow it up, or any of their military bases...

Anyway, as I said, Exitar, possibly Odin and MAYBE Silver Surfer clear all 5.

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Then explain what a suncrusher is smile maybe I'll change my mind, from what I've seen in the movies I'll stay with my opinion


The Sun Crusher can make a sun go nova...

Plus SW has lots of superweapons on par with this, such as the Galaxy Gun and, of course, the Death Star...


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Uh no, this book called Star Wars: Death Star (and the books ARE canon if approved by Lucas and is not fan fic/a what if) shows people with experience in the military saying that the Death Star once constructed might render "modern" warfare obsolete.

Think about it...with the Death Star, you could simply go to your enemy's capital and blow it up, or any of their military bases...

With the sheer amount of power each Star Destroyer had the Empire could already do that. The Death Star was a huge waste no matter how many times people try to say it made sense. The Death Star would have fallen prey to sabotage eventually. Or Tarkin would have tried taking control of it.

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Thor - How fast can Thor travel again? Because couldn't the star destroyers pummel him from hundreds of thousands of miles away (and they can produce firepower in the millions of atom bombs per shot) and then jump to hyperspace when he gets to them? And then come back again...and so on? What about the Sun Crusher that makes stars go nova?

Superman - See above, also he couldn't literally defeat SW in a war since Superman won't be able to travel fast enough - 99.99% the speed of light still isn't fast enough to get across a galaxy in a reasonable amount of time.

Silver Surfer - possibly

Odin - well, if he just destroys the galaxy...

Exitar - definately


Or Thor could drain the electricity from all of their weapons and ships and render them useless. Superman also goes much faster than 99.99% the speed of light.


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Dude, the expanded universe is canon, this is STATED by George Lucas
wut
he got nothin to do with the EU he never write it or anythin huh when did he say dat?

so now other ppl influence Lucas on his own work? hows did they pull that of? laughing out loud

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Dude, the expanded universe is canon, this is STATED by George Lucas, plus many of the events in the EU directly relate to the movies (the reason why Grevious coughs so much in Revenge of the Sith is that Mace Windu crushed his lungs in the clone wars cartoon, which is part of the EU, one of the scenes in A New Hope where the heroes escape is explained in an EU book)

I'd say that Exitar, possibly Odin and MAYBE Silver Surfer clear all 5

Wasn't the official stance that the cough was because he was like a prototype of the yet to be perfected cybernetic technology and a nod to the Clone Wars cartoon at the same time?


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wut
he got nothin to do with the EU he never write it or anythin huh when did he say dat?

so now other ppl influence Lucas on his own work? hows did they pull that of? laughing out loud


More or less EVERY director gets influence from his advisers/others' works...

And yes, the EU is canon, heck the EU contains MUCH more content than the movies do...

G canon = Movies
C canon = Books/etc.

G canon overrides C canon IF they contradict, but if they don't then C canon (EU) is canon.

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With the sheer amount of power each Star Destroyer had the Empire could already do that. The Death Star was a huge waste no matter how many times people try to say it made sense. The Death Star would have fallen prey to sabotage eventually. Or Tarkin would have tried taking control of it.


No, star destroyers can't destroy planets...they can render them uninhabitable, but can't DESTROY them...and planetary shields can stop them.

True, creating a weapon to attempt to slaughter and enslave trillions is horrible and a waste, but military wise it IS useful.


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More or less EVERY director gets influence from his advisers/others' works...

And yes, the EU is canon, heck the EU contains MUCH more content than the movies do
confused that dont make it canon

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G canon = Movies
C canon = Books/etc.

G canon overrides C canon IF they contradict, but if they don't then C canon (EU) is canon.
then any1 on the web can make there own fanfic, as long as it dont contradict the movies & only add somethin then its canon laughing out loud



edit> heres a contradicton : in the movies the "force ghosts" are imortal, in the EU their mortal cool

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confused that dont make it canon

then any1 on the web can make there own fanfic, as long as it dont contradict the movies & only add somethin then its canon laughing out loud



edit> heres a contradicton : in the movies the "force ghosts" are imortal, in the EU their mortal cool

Your point? He said that if movie canon contradicts EU stuff then the movie stuff is correct. There's a big difference between fan fiction and books sanctioned by George Lucas.

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