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Warning Atum (demon form) vs Shuma Gorath

so this Atum as Demogorge

fight take place OUTSIDE Shumas ralm (and not on Earth)


no BFR allow (cept if Atum eat Shuma, that counts as win big grin)


edit. if Atum eat Shuma, Shuma must NOT b able break out/control Atum from within, else fight aint over! smile

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Demogorge can probably eat him.


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Yeah he probably eats him


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btw i added small edit in 1st post smile

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I don't think he could break out. The only reason the Skrull God was able to was because, being a Skrull, she represented a near infinite amount of God heads and she overloaded him.


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but dint Thor take control after Atum eat him?

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Well we don't really know how Shuma's power fluctuates within realms that he hasn't conquered or isn't his home dimension. For instance, in one of Shuma's lesser realms he is described as making Mephisto and Satannish look like mice compared to him but on Earth he didn't exhibit that scale of power even though he had basically taken it over. Though that could be because other Gods like Crom were there which reduced Shuma's control and power by a good amount.

To make it simple what percentage of his in realm full-power are you giving to Shuma for this?


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Well we don't really know how Shuma's power fluctuates within realms that he hasn't conquered or isn't his home dimension. For instance, in one of Shuma's lesser realms he is described as making Mephisto and Satannish look like mice compared to him but on Earth he didn't exhibit that scale of power even though he had basically taken it over. Though that could be because other Gods like Crom were there which reduced Shuma's control and power by a good amount.

To make it simple what percentage of his in realm full-power are you giving to Shuma for this?
duh. good question embarrasment


I said not on earth cuz it wuz one of his former ralms so i dint wanna make him omipotent for this fight. but come 2 think of it he did get trap by some rocks on his own turf (earth). PIS if u ask me but it happen

so i dunno


ima say between 2.5 & 5% of his full power, there! big grin



edit> or to make it simpler (hopefuly) fight takes place outside ALL of his ralms inc. lesser ones smile

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duh. good question embarrasment


I said not on earth cuz it wuz one of his former ralms so i dint wanna make him omipotent for this fight. but come 2 think of it he did get trap by some rocks on his own turf (earth). PIS if u ask me but it happen

so i dunno


ima say between 2.5 & 5% of his full power, there! big grin



edit> or to make it simpler (hopefuly) fight takes place outside ALL of his ralms inc. lesser ones smile


The whole thing with Shuma-Gorath and Conan the Barbarian is just weird. I'm not even sure if its canon or not because it's not published under Marvel. If we regard it as canon to the marvel timeline then Shuma-Gorath was still powerful, though. Even when he was trapped inside the mountain by the Elder God Crom he was still able to exercise his power like summoning rains of fire to destroy villages. Of course, Crom wouldn't be able to do jack to Shuma when Shuma has all its power available.

With 2.5 - 5% power...I think that's a bit low, Atum the God Eater would eat Shuma. However, I bet Shuma would find a way to get out. Being of a much greater intellect it could possibly lure Atum into one of its realms and destroy him there big grin


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The whole thing with Shuma-Gorath and Conan the Barbarian is just weird. I'm not even sure if its canon or not because it's not published under Marvel. If we regard it as canon to the marvel timeline then Shuma-Gorath was still powerful, though. Even when he was trapped inside the mountain by the Elder God Crom he was still able to exercise his power like summoning rains of fire to destroy villages. Of course, Crom wouldn't be able to do jack to Shuma when Shuma has all its power available.

With 2.5 - 5% power...I think that's a bit low, Atum the God Eater would eat Shuma. However, I bet Shuma would find a way to get out. Being of a much greater intellect it could possibly lure Atum into one of its realms and destroy him there big grin
yeah but he couldnt escape the mountain lol
guess i prefer the explanation where its not canon ("not published by marvel"? hows that possible? huh )

yeah % is low but dude this is Shuma, that things badass so i had to make it low (dint it say on panel that the whole octessence wuz afraid of him or somethin? they dint wanna fight him)




luring Atum into his own turf woud be too funny laughing out loud laughing out loud

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yeah but he couldnt escape the mountain lol
guess i prefer the explanation where its not canon ("not published by marvel"? hows that possible? huh )

yeah % is low but dude this is Shuma, that things badass so i had to make it low (dint it say on panel that the whole octessence wuz afraid of him or somethin? they dint wanna fight him)




luring Atum into his own turf woud be too funny laughing out loud laughing out loud


Yea, Conan the Barbarian is Dark Horse publishing. I don't know how they got Shuma in there. Probably because copyright laws are so lax, you can basically copy 95% of a character without it being copyright infringment. Most likely why they drastically changed Shuma's image, unless they got direct permission from Marvel to use the character.

Yea, funny how Shuma cannot escape the mountain but all of his usual powers still work haha. He even pretends to be under the spells of Kulan Gath and Vammatar but then obliterates them with ease after they release him.

It wasn't the Octessence, it was the Vishanti. They said that they had once combated Shuma-Gorath and they would not help Doctor Strange to get rid of him. It's hinted that Shuma fought the Vishanti trio on Earth at a fraction of his power and yet they could not get rid of it. But, since the Vishanti were still there it appears that it was a stalemate and the Vishanti knew that they wouldn't be able to help Strange beat Shuma.


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**** your right it wuz those 3 vishamacallit gods


how do they compare to the octesence gods?

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**** your right it wuz those 3 vishamacallit gods


how do they compare to the octesence gods?


I'm not sure. One of the Vishanti, Agamotto was doing pretty well against Galactus inside his realm, but I don't quite remember how fed Galactus was. As far as how they are in relation to the Octessence...I'm not quite sure. I remember statements from the Vishanti saying they would not let Dr. Strange use his magic against anything having to do with Cyttorak. Though, I don't know if this is because they feared his power.

The Vishanti are pretty darn powerful though.


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I don't think he could break out. The only reason the Skrull God was able to was because, being a Skrull, she represented a near infinite amount of God heads and she overloaded him.


And then the same Skrull god was killed by Mikaboshi. Shuma Gorath is leagues above Mikaboshi and the Skrull gods. SG is going to beat Atum down.


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And then the same Skrull god was killed by Mikaboshi. Shuma Gorath is leagues above Mikaboshi and the Skrull gods. SG is going to beat Atum down.


It had nothing to do with power. Like I said, it had to do with Demogorge basically trying to eat a near infinite amount of Gods at once.

Shuma doesn't represent a near infinite amount of Gods.


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Demogorge can probably eat him.


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but dint Thor take control after Atum eat him?
thor is atum brother, thats why.


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And then the same Skrull god was killed by Mikaboshi. Shuma Gorath is leagues above Mikaboshi and the Skrull gods. SG is going to beat Atum down.
atum didnt fight her he just tried to eat her not knowing she has multiple god heads in her which made it too complicated to dijest. now if atum actualy fought her he could of destroyed her easily.

also makiboshi is a skyfather level god killer


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thor is atum brother, thats why.
No thats not why Atum is related to just about every God/Demon he ate erm


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