alright i know beast vs sabretooth has been done a lot of times but i actually wanted to cover most of the scenarios that are possible because both characters had couple upgrades and incarnations so here we go
scenario #1 - classic sabretooth vs ape beast , classic sabretooth is the sabretooth from mutant massacre the old one that fought daredevil he was already astablished as a mutant and not the glove killer so this is the mutant massacre sabretooth vs ape beast
scenario #2 - classic mutant massacre sabretooth vs lion beast its same sabretooth only vs the lion beast already
scenario #3 - in this one its already the death hunt sabretooth after he got upgrades and was upgraded in strength durability and everything, this is the sabretooth from the red zone and the one from x factor we all know and all thinking off when we think about sabretooth since this sabretooth was with us for the longest so its death hunt sabretooth vs ape beast
scenario #4 - death hunt sabretooth vs lion beast
scenario #5 - death hunt sabretooth vs lion beast in feral mode when beast in feral mode the same beast who destroy danger and bested wolverine
scenario #6 - this is the weapon x sabretooth after he was upgraded once again , this is the sabretooth who always bested wolverine ever since wolverine #166 and defeated sinisters super soldier so its weapon x sabretooth without adamantium and healing factor vs ape beast
scenario #7 - weapon x beast without adamantium but with healing factor vs ape beast
scenario #8 weapon x sabretooth with adamantium and healing factor vs ape beast
scenario #9 - weapon x sabretooth without healing factor and adamantium vs lion beast
scenario # 10 - weapon x sabretooth with healing factor but without adamantium vs lion beast
scenario #11 - weapon x sabretooth with adamantium and healing factor vs feral beast the crazy one again who destroyed danger
scenario #12 - now this is the last sabretooth who was with the x men lets call him the x-men sabretooth so here we go this is the x-men sabretooth vs ape beast
scenario #13 - xmen sabretooth vs feral lion beast
aha... so you think the first sabretooth who got humiliated by mister sinister in pure strength who is just a class 10 is going to beat any form of beast? ape beast was giving a hell of a fight and even beating the death hunt sabretooth so how can you say his first incarnation can beat any beast form
Mister sinster would humiliate beast, and he not class ten, hand books are wrong my friend. Beast also is not class 10. Also beast has never beaten Sabre-tooth
also you have two many scenerios, man people are going to over look the thread, becuase no one wants to respond to 10 plus different scenarios. Then even if you have people respond, there going to respond vaguely or people will be talking about two seperate scenerios ect.
first of all beast is too agile for mister sinister in a hand 2 hand fight so if anything its sinister who will be humiliated most of all and it already happened in x-men vol 2 i dont remember the issue but beast was beating sinister
hand books are wrong? so how strong is sinister? please provide any evidence to your statement because if you dont have any other evidence about his strength then we will go by the handbook (you arent trying to suggest sinister is stronger then class 10 are you? because that would be a joke)
you are right beast is not class 10 he is beyond class 10 and its stated by almost any bio out there , he was able to rip open a sentinals head , steel wall and a steel tank when he fought dark beast he is above class 10
and yes beast was beating and humiliating sabretooth in the "redzone" twice , second time when beast defeats sabretooth is when the x-men are captured by omega red and beast free his legs and knocking out sabretooth with his feet only
if you dont want to read and reply to all the scenarios thats your choice
wow.... what a great argument from your side you are so wise its amazing , i am talking about strength alone as you would notice if you read my post properly and in pure strength and hand 2 hand sinister gets destroyed as was already in x-men vol 2 when beast pummel him
Go make a Beast vs Sinister thread.......and watch how everyone laughs at you.......it not even debatable, sinister would crush him.
I not going to waste my time on some one who clearly ignorant of the character. If it was to prove sabre-tooth strength, sure I would provide examples becuase he relevent to the thread. Go take a gander at sinster respect thread.
He not class 10 or above you are very mis informed. He for a time was granted class 70 strength, but that faded and lasted but an arc. He posses less then 5 ton strength even on pannel statements of his strength in astonishing x-men don't even place him in 2000 pound area. You are extremely misinformed.
Really what was the issue number, which I already am almost 100% certian your full of shit since you already lied about beast "beating" sabre-tooth when he kicked him in the faces. It was uncanny x-men number 7 and beast never "beat" sabre-tooth, you are full of it, I have the issue in front of me. He sucker kicked sabre-tooth in the face, sabre-tooth was fine and then got attack by judlee blinding him and then cyclopes blasted him through the wall.
Whats even funnier is one of the events you brought up goes against your statement of beast being above class 10 or even at the level of class 10. Beast was unable to even get out of his chained locks in Uncanny X-men issue 7 unitill Maverick clicked the lock, and even then beast could only pull out the wires. Wolverine in a weaken state was able to destroy the shackles with his arms. Meaning Wolverine>>Beast in strength and it a known fact that Sabre-tooth is >>Wolverine in strength. So Sabre-tooth is >>>>>Beast in strength
Why because Wolverine has shown in dirrect comparisons between the two to be stronger then Beast? He also has superior feats of strength. I mean how ridiculous of me to say Wolverine is stronger then beast.
Why do you always have to lie? I mean it down right annoying, to listen to you constantly lie and make things up. Dont you ever get tired of looking like a lieing idiot? It was never stated in a single comic that his secondary mutation increased his strength. The only things stated to have increased was that of his senses and ability to heal. He also theorized that his head grow bigger to protect his brain. He gained bigger claws and more animal like hands. That was the only thing ever shown or stated.
Prove it. The fact is Wolverine in dirrect comparision in Uncanny X-men issue 7 proved to be stronger. Another fact is wolverine posses better strength feat. You re stating utter crap does not make it so.
Here wolverien shattering shackles that beast could not. beast only got out after Maverick released part of the shackle and even then he was only able to ripp some of the wires with the strongets part of his body. http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/...traints2cl0.jpg
He not, nor does he have any feats to suggest this. You gotta stop with the talking out your ass, you just look like an idiot.
Beast strength was stated by danger at only being 1,100 pounds and this is current Beast.
"After being critically wounded[43], Hank's body undergoes a secondary mutation, jumpstarted by Sage. The result is a more feline appearance equivalent to that of a big cat. His strength, speed, stamina, sturdiness, and senses increase further with this change." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beast_...Feline_physique
"Beast has superhuman strength, agility, endurance, and speed. In his human form, the Beast could lift c. 1 ton. His simian form could lift c. 10 tons. His feline form can lift at least 25 tons." http://www.comicvine.com/beast/29-1462/
also his senses arnt 20 times better as wiki as usual is wrong as it was with your entire post, it 10 times better then a normal human as stated in new x-men 124