How was Despero's durability 'not good' in Virtue and Vice? I don't recall anything hurting him, including the punches of multiple top tier strong men like Captain Marvel, Superman, etc.
That means nothing. Hawkman's mace has always hurt beings more powerful than they should be.
The fact that he was taking punches from multiple top tier strong men pretty much puts the idea that he was somehow not very durable in this incarnation to rest.
lots of other versions have been very disappointing, but this one was a verifiable monster.
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The fight with Lobo was pretty definitive. Lobo jumped on him and was easily beaten back.
Despero's psychic abilities are vastly improved in V&V and would pretty much overwhelm Lobo. Thats not to mention illusion casting and superior speed.
Also, I don't know what you consider great in terms of durability. He was cut in V&V by Aquaman's hook which I believe has magical properties as well as having his teeth smashed by Hawkgirl's mace which is made of Nth metal.
He recovered in seconds from both.
If you can physically knock out: Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl all at once you are pretty durable.
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His mace shattered when hitting a New Kryptonian ffs.
Uh huh. I'm familiar. What I'm not getting is why you think that has any bearing on this fight. With the *possible* exception of Reign in Hell, mainstream Lobo has always been a good deal weaker than his supposed contemporaries. See Superman. See Darkseid. See Despero. You said peak Lobo. That's what I go by.
Despero had what, one psychic feat in V&V, and that was against Green Arrow/Black Canary in the White House. You've got no proof that his psychic abilities were vastly improved in V&V.
Recovered, yes. Healed? I don't think so...But I could be wrong.
That doesn't prove durability. That proves strength. And are you kidding me, Superman and Captain Marvel being KO'd from one head-bump? And err, I think at one point it is Wonder Woman who isn't even in the picture, but it in the next panel she's on the ground KO'd. The entire sequence reeked of PIS.
actually it does prove durability to a certain extent. being able to surving koing someone like superman without having your fist turned to mush, means you are pretty f**king durable
Superboy, pre death, drew blood from Superboy Prime.
Does that mean that Superboy Prime's durability was really that low, or is it more likely an example of artistic interpretation?
He turned Martian Manhunter to goo from afar. That's pretty impressive.
That absolutely proved durability. How can you take a punch from a character and NOT have it NOT be an indication of durability?
I don't care if it's "PIS", the scene was what the scene was, and the implications of that scene are obvious. He was taking on Superman, Captain Marvel, Power Girl and Wonder Woman all at once, obviously taking hits in the process and coming out fine.
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It does prove durability.
They were all trading punches and Superman and Captain Marvel were hitting him simultaneously. Superman, has put, Lobo, down with punches and, Captain Marvel, knocked, Lobo, around easily in their fight in L.E.G.I.O.N.
The knew the threat Despero posed and its reasonable to presume that they were going all out with their blows.
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I don't see anything wrong with that. Prime is not too far beyond Superman or Superboy's levels, and you can't exactly claim PIS because he gives him a good run for his money after his resurrection, as well.
Forgot about this. Yes, it was.
Looks like he took seven hits total from various people. One of them was from Power Girl, who hurt him. Another was from Hawkman's mace, who drew blood and busted out his teeth.
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Mar 11th, 2010 11:28 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Despero VS Lobo
Because it takes uber durability to pick up Superman and Captain Marvel and smash their heads together. Right. Of course it does.
