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Cable vs. Shaman X-Man.

Shaman X-Man from the Dark X-Men Comics.

Both at full power and both are blood lusted.

Rationale:

Cable has more skill and experience, while X-Man has slightly more raw power.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Cable vs. Shaman X-Man.

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Shaman X-Man from the Dark X-Men Comics.

Both at full power and both are blood lusted.

Rationale:

Cable has more skill and experience, while X-Man has slightly more raw power.

Any thoughts?


I think he might have good deal more of raw power

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What version of Cable?

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Re: Re: Cable vs. Shaman X-Man.

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I think he might have good deal more of raw power
He doesn't.


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He doesn't.


ok then

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Re: Re: Cable vs. Shaman X-Man.

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I think he might have good deal more of raw power
MORE like 10X... cool

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nate has a lot more power and even has better feats and experience then cable in the use of the psi power.


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God-Cable wins this.

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God-Cable wins this.
No... mad

Nate takes this handedly has more time with his power lvls then cable..


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Cable's a helluva lot older and a repeated time traveler and has been in more wars and had more occasions to use his power. He's definitely more experienced than Nate.

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Cable never had full use of Psi lvl powers until very recently he doesnt have the same amount of feats or even power lvl... back in the 80's and 90's Cable was struggling to lift a wrench failing to put up a Psi battle fight with stryfe....

Cable only had a push in psi experience only after both scott and jean came back from the future.. even then Cable's 1st psi power attempt was during the phalanx story arc where jean taught him how to enter the astral plane and jean still had to take him their...

i think you are confused with cable's actual psi experience when it comes to nate.. nate has bn using his power since AOA...


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Cable never had full use of Psi lvl powers until very recently he doesnt have the same amount of feats or even power lvl... back in the 80's and 90's Cable was struggling to lift a wrench failing to put up a Psi battle fight with stryfe....

Cable only had a push in psi experience only after both scott and jean came back from the future.. even then Cable's 1st psi power attempt was during the phalanx story arc where jean taught him how to enter the astral plane and jean still had to take him their...

i think you are confused with cable's actual psi experience when it comes to nate.. nate has bn using his power since AOA...

Cable's been using his psionic powers (telepathy and tk) since 1990. no expression Pretty sure of that.

And in Burnt Offering he looked pretty damn powerful to me. stick out tongue

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Cable's been using his psionic powers (telepathy and tk) since 1990. no expression Pretty sure of that.

And in Burnt Offering he looked pretty damn powerful to me. stick out tongue


But not at his highest levels. I think SNG has had more time and experience with the god-like powers and after he became the shaman, transcended, desintegrated, whatever, his insight into the workings of psi energy and the astral plane is probably bigger too.

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i didnt say he wasnt using his Psi powers in the 90's i even said he was using them back in the 80's but at a very low lvl... he had very little feats and experience and only showed some decent feats during the cable & deadpool run, Nate was already far more experienced then cable and using his power yrs prior to the burnt offering run..



nate was already able to fight Madelyne pryer and jean without even raising an eyebrow.... nate was creating life subconsciously when he arrived and had his powers diminished... he was already manipulating his psi power unlike no else other then some one like legion and nate was still inexperienced and learning... Nate took on exodus while in starving weaken state and fought cable who was draining his psi powers and creating feedback,,, cable wasnt even alone he had the blaqsmith with him helping him fight..


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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Cable never had full use of Psi lvl powers until very recently he doesnt have the same amount of feats or even power lvl... back in the 80's and 90's Cable was struggling to lift a wrench failing to put up a Psi battle fight with stryfe....

Cable only had a push in psi experience only after both scott and jean came back from the future.. even then Cable's 1st psi power attempt was during the phalanx story arc where jean taught him how to enter the astral plane and jean still had to take him their...

i think you are confused with cable's actual psi experience when it comes to nate.. nate has bn using his power since AOA...
Cable is the more experienced user, this was shown when they both fought.

While Cable had less power (TO virus), he was able to hold his own and out maneuver Nate.


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he held his own b/c Nate was severely weaken and already suffering power shortage.. and he was starving was still weaken from arriving he was tired hurt from his earth bound fall...

Nate just wanted to be left alone when Exodus came and attacked him draining more power from nate and using it against him.. if anything that is a better feat then Cable lets see here:

weaken exhausted power failure inexperience nate grey vs Exodus, Cable and Blaqsmith.. hmm...

who looked better in that run?

Nate grey.

also Major PIS cable for the 1st time was pulling s#@$ out his @$$ to compete with nate and was getting powered up by nate's psi energy to boot...

Cable's retcon didnt encompass Cable's Psi lvl manipulation till that very moment when he was pulling Teleportation feat, and time jumping, TK flight something cable had never done under his own power or had ever shown such knowledge even with scott and jean retcon training..


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Nate Grey looked better than TO-virus Cable, omg his power is maximum.

Btw, he was just fighting Cable in the instance I'm talking about. And am I confused or were we talking about experience, which Cable showed more of, and I think it was even mentioned in the comic.


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i am talking about the full three months of retcons leading to their fight.

up to that point cable was massively retcon into being Jean and scotts son in the adventures of cyclops and phoenix mini series.. and being trained how to hold back the t.vo virus which he never had up until the retcon... his experience in the future had nothing to do with Psi manipulation but combat and survival even with the retcon cable was only trained by phoenix how to dull the physical pain of his body, make illusions to hide his infection, slow down and stop the infectio from spreading...

back in the main 616 U Cable showed this retcon to having a stronger psi bond to cyclops and Pheonix as an adult in the main 616 U prior to the fight with Nate jean had taught him how to enter the astral plane and make wpns...

soon after we are shown Cable mixing it up with a weaken starving Nate and pulling psi powers he never acknowledged having or knowing about again blaqsmith was showing cable in the middle of the fight how to use certain techniques while fighting nate also they were prepping b4 they fought nate..

Nate wasnt at a 100% he was massively weaken and was fighting exodus and he buried exodus into a ravine when Cable and blaqsmith showed up to fight nate...

if i had to give a number to nate's power lvl at the time he was around 20 to 30% of power...


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Cool, Cable was at 1-5% compared to Nate, and held his own because of experience. smile


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