Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Living Tribunal AND Eternity
As the title says, Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Those 2.... Now, I've heard people say that both LT and Eternity have admitted themselves inferior to Beyonder, so if anyone can provide proof of that, it'll be great..
Let's put it this way. Molecule Man, who at the time of the Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the second most powerful being EVER, let off a blast, point blank in the Beyonder's face that was said to be powerful enough to destroy THOUSANDS of dimensions, it was shrugged off by the Beyonder.
1000 Tribunals and 1000 Eternitys wouldn't do jack against him. That's why he was retconned.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Beyonder may have been from outside the Marvel multiverse, however he is still a Marvel property and would come under the jurisdiction of Marvels supreme being.
Further to that point, the Pre ret Beyonder buy his own admission could be affected by the power of the M'kraan crystal. Reverted from his humanoid form back to a formless reality. He was not supreme being level, he was not infallible.
I was just correcting your assessment that he was greater than TOAA when Beyonder is still a Marvel property and therefore under its supreme beings jurisdiction. I further illustrated my point by highlighting the power the M'kraan crystal has over the Beyonder.
Jim Shooter (EIC) said "He discovered us"
1 Option - Beyonder discovered Authors Avatars , this make Him greater than TOAA
2 Beyonder discovered Human race (Us) on Marvel Earth 616 and if this is true TOAA win