Wolverine, he to my knowledge has used far more firer arms. Captain America form day one has been using his shield mostly. This was not the case with Wolverine who for greta parts of his life had no idea he had claws and was using firer arms to get his task's accomplished.
I hate to say it, but I actually agree with Starscream.
Cap's knowledge of trajectory is very advanced. His shield tossing ability was a skill he learned in his training. That would translate very well to firearms. His aim is so attuned he can get the same effects with a discus toss that others would with a firearm, so he doesn't need a gun. The aim is there though.
again there not the same thing. Throwing and object and shooting a gun have a completely different feel. The best knife thrower in the world, picked up a gun he ben shit with it. They don't translate over. There two completely different tasks, the only similarity would be timing, but even then it be much different. Throwing object has much different feel then shooting a gun. Go try it your self.
Uisng your logic a baseball pitcher would be an expert with firearms. see what I am getting at?
So does Wolverine. He made HYDRA agents think he's Cap and all he had was a trash can lid... which obviously doesn't have the properties of Cap's shield.
They both have some ridiculous accuracy feats. Steve opening and closing a lighter with his shield throw, Wolverine taking out a plane with a sword throw / a chopper with a wretch...
People just becuase you are good at throwing a shield, knife ect does not make you better with a Gun. It like trying to argue a major league pitcher being expert with firer arms, because he so accurate with his pitches. It absurd. All it help you do is timing, the whole feel and motion, is much different froma gun, The way you aim is much different as well.
Also wolverine expert with throwing knifes, but that means shit here. It who better with a gun.
I see what your getting at Dum Dum, however, paralleling Cap's specialized aim and training to a real life knife thrower or a pitcher is a horrible comparison. Nolan Ryan isn't going to know the right speed and trajectory to throw a fast ball against a wall, have it ricochet off multiple surfaces, hit 7 people in the forehead (knocking each unconscious), and then have the ball return to the palm of his hand. Cap's aim is more comparable to one of his comic contemporaries like Bullseye or Cyclops. The aim and trajectory ability is a honed skill. Using a real world example of someone tossing an object is more than a bit misleading, to say the least.
again it not though. Your trying to saying becuase capt can boucne his shield off objects that means he be superior to wolverine with a gun. But gun is not the same as his shield at all. Then entire mostion of aiming a gun and firing it are nothing like the shield. There two completely different items. It like me trying to argue that being Wolverine an expert knife thrower, that he automatically an expert with Capt shield. It faulty logic. There two completely different weapons (hell knife throwing and shield throwing have way more in common then firering a gun). There not comparable. Your using two seperate weapons that are used in two compeltely different fashions as comparable feats, when simply there not.
comparable arguement to what your making from real world stand point, would be that a kid who can bounces pingpong ball off several walls, out a window into a cup if he picked up a gun would have expert aim. See what I am getting at? There two different skill, sets and there not comparable.
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