Lets say Loki is around in scenario number 4, although i can't edit the post damn.
Hmm so you think Odin stomps in scenario number 4?? I think that scenario is pretty interesting considering we have seen Vulcan handling teams of X-Men as well as the Imperial Guard, and X-Man handling the Dark Avengers by himself as well, opinions??
but odin could wipe those people out with a fart. With darwin's power Vulcan would survive Odin, of course, but he could be easily dealt with through BFR. SNG is above regular vulcan but still nowhere near Odin.
The only scenario the Team has the possibility of winning is the first one. It also depends on the level the Asgardian's are portrayed at. And if beings like Loki and Enchantress are excluded along with powerful artifacts like the Destroyer Armor, the Norn Stones etc.
Enchantress is incredibly powerful. The only reason I don't outright say she beats Vulcan's shit in is because of that scene where he was able to absorb Magus' power as according to him magic is simply another form of energy. I think that entire issue was stupid including Magus repowering himself by absorbing the power of that other Mage but whatever. I'm hoping that was just an isolated scene.
they're both dead so I dont see much room for speculation for a while. it was still pretty clear. dont think she would defeat him in physical confrontation if he couldn't eat her powers either.
he resisted BB's transformative electron manipulation for a good while and rebuilt himself after being badly damaged by it. she's not durable enough to tank what he can dish out and the strategies you sugested for her aren't that common either. He also has a measure of superspeed. she can get wins but wouldnt take a majority IMO
If we count the fact that he can absorb and manipulate magical energy on the level adam was using, she'd be pretty hopeless.
As far as I know, Black Bolt was stated to be using electron manipulation, which is basically his power set. Vulcan was able to match that with his energy manipulation. How that transmits to resisting Enchantresses matter manipulation I do not know. Yea he rebuilt himself. She turns him into a tree.
She transmuted Thor and Balder into half trees, she's transmuted some random Asgardian into a tree. IIRC, right before the Avenger's/Defender's war, Amora transmuted the Black Knight, and the spell was so powerful that Classic Doctor Strange awas not able to change him back. At least for a while. If I wanted to get really exotic, I could simply argue she pulls out his soul. IIRC, she did that in New X-men. She could also simply paralyze him. Or turn him into pure light. Albeit she did that to Dazzler. Heck, Amora once turned back time in the Marvel reality to undo the last few days.
She recently withstood what Hela was dishing. Besides she's created barriers before.
When did he show super speed? I know he can fly at faster than light speeds but I've never seen him utilize it in combat. Amora can teleport.
Even if you include his mystical absorption, I can just argue she blasts him with a spell his not powerful enough to stop ala Havok.
Warlock's most powerful feat is transmuting that dead planet. One shot killing the Hulk and later on Nightmare I believe pisses on that.
The way she recently performed against the amped Hela pisses on everything I've seen Vulcan do.
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IMHO, with PIS and CIS off, lots of Herald level and lower beings should be able to crush the Hulk.
Who hasn't killed Nightmare?
The aftermath of the Vulcan/Black Bolt throw down did more damage than the combined assault of the cosmics (Galactus, Love, Hate, Stranger, Eon, Ziran, other Celestial, Kronos, Master Order and Lord Chaos) vs Thanos with the IG. I consider that more impressive than holding your own vs an amped Hela.
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