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which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?

which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?

of the listed characters, which single hero (throughout their lives) has demonstrated the most resilience, pain tolerance, and superior will power in the face of overwhelming and seemingly impossible odds.
their powers are irrelevant.

spiderman
superman
wolverine
thor
batman
wonder woman
hal jordan
charles xavier
hulk
punisher
daredevil

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batman wolverine and punisher

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ya, but if you could only pick one hero who would it be? just one from the listed heroes.

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Hal Jordan is a serious contender. Outside of willpower as how it relates to the Green Lantern Corps and his power ring, the guy's childhood was marred by his father's demise (which, when compared to the others here, it's no unique thing) and the fact that he never knew what was going through his head when he died in the airplane crash. Jordan's childhood dreams of flying were later opposed by his mother, who had grown physically ill as even refused to allow Hal to see her on her deathbed because he enlisted in the USAF. He also had to deal with his brothers, both of whom resented Hal in a way for their mother's plight.

Enter the later years, and Hal had dealt with a lot of grief prior to Abin Sur's crash landing. Hal had to essentially constantly deal with threats of such scale that only a few other people here can handle, much less imagine. His personal life was also pretty much shit as evidenced in the Hard Traveling Hero days.

Of course, shit doesn't get really bad until Coast City gets nuked, in which we see Hal's fall from grace. The stress of it all allowed himself to be infected by Parallax (which would actually be a mark against Hal's mental fortitude/willpower as he did break down, but still it's worth noting). Hal later then went on to destroy the thing he had sworn to uphold and would later be responsible for a threat of truly massive consequences during Zero Hour. He later then repented by displaying enough willpower and (and pain tolerance) by saving Earth during the Final Night, rekindling the sun with what was left of his power.

And then we have the whole Spectre affair, in which Hal, for a time, actually managed to curb the spirit to a point of making his mission Redemption instead of Vengeance. This wouldn't last, however. Still, the effort he made was beyond impressive.

And then we have Rebirth in which Hal has to endure both being the host of Spectre and Parallax, and with some help, manages to fight his way back to the living. And even after his heroic rebirth, Hal still had to deal with the consequences of his fall from grace and win back acceptance and trust from the superhero community and Corps in general.

I'm sure someone can make a better case for another character mentioned on the list, but Hal definitely deserves props.


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I smell a Hal Jordan fanboy shifty how you do dat durr


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lol, well, Hal does happen to be my second favorite DC character...

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Hal is definitely a contender not just for the list, but for comics in general. The man's a beast when it comes to willpower.

You don't get to have arguably more willpower than Batman and Superman (and they're insanely strong mentally), without being very, very good.


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I like how you knew that the only correct choice was Doom so you left him out so it would not be one sided.

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Hal is definitely a contender not just for the list, but for comics in general. The man's a beast when it comes to willpower.

You don't get to have arguably more willpower than Batman and Superman (and they're insanely strong mentally), without being very, very good.
Do you recall their recent encounter with Jerico in Teen Titans? Nice showing for Hal forcing Jerico out threw sheer will Superman didnt even let him possess him thats will power for you


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Do you recall their recent encounter with Jerico in Teen Titans? Nice showing for Hal forcing Jerico out threw sheer will Superman didnt even let him possess him thats will power for you


Was that in that election mini?


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Hal Jordan is a serious contender. Outside of willpower as how it relates to the Green Lantern Corps and his power ring, the guy's childhood was marred by his father's demise (which, when compared to the others here, it's no unique thing) and the fact that he never knew what was going through his head when he died in the airplane crash. Jordan's childhood dreams of flying were later opposed by his mother, who had grown physically ill as even refused to allow Hal to see her on her deathbed because he enlisted in the USAF. He also had to deal with his brothers, both of whom resented Hal in a way for their mother's plight.

Enter the later years, and Hal had dealt with a lot of grief prior to Abin Sur's crash landing. Hal had to essentially constantly deal with threats of such scale that only a few other people here can handle, much less imagine. His personal life was also pretty much shit as evidenced in the Hard Traveling Hero days.

Of course, shit doesn't get really bad until Coast City gets nuked, in which we see Hal's fall from grace. The stress of it all allowed himself to be infected by Parallax (which would actually be a mark against Hal's mental fortitude/willpower as he did break down, but still it's worth noting). Hal later then went on to destroy the thing he had sworn to uphold and would later be responsible for a threat of truly massive consequences during Zero Hour. He later then repented by displaying enough willpower and (and pain tolerance) by saving Earth during the Final Night, rekindling the sun with what was left of his power.

And then we have the whole Spectre affair, in which Hal, for a time, actually managed to curb the spirit to a point of making his mission Redemption instead of Vengeance. This wouldn't last, however. Still, the effort he made was beyond impressive.

And then we have Rebirth in which Hal has to endure both being the host of Spectre and Parallax, and with some help, manages to fight his way back to the living. And even after his heroic rebirth, Hal still had to deal with the consequences of his fall from grace and win back acceptance and trust from the superhero community and Corps in general.

I'm sure someone can make a better case for another character mentioned on the list, but Hal definitely deserves props.


In other words, Hal deals has dealt with great tragedy on multiple occasions.....like every other major superhero.


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Was that in that election mini?
I cant recall I was hoping you knew the details erm


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which one of these DC/Marvel characters is the toughest mentally?

of the listed characters, which single hero (throughout their lives) has demonstrated the most resilience, pain tolerance, and superior will power in the face of overwhelming and seemingly impossible odds.
their powers are irrelevant.

spiderman
superman
wolverine
thor
batman
wonder woman
hal jordan
charles xavier
hulk
punisher
daredevil


Are these supposed to be separate categories -pain tolerance, superior will- etc. or overall?

A lot of those beings have done a great deal of what has been mentioned. Hulk, Thor, Hal, Superman, Punisher etc. have all shown crazy will power.


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overall, the highest degree of all three. resilience, pain tolerance, and will power are somewhat related to eachother, so ya, i meant overall.

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Hmm, out of those listed: DOOM!


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I cant recall I was hoping you knew the details erm


I think that's DC: Universe - Decisions you're talking about.


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I'm going to say Wonder Woman, but Thor's fan isn't going to agree with me. pirate


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I like how you knew that the only correct choice was Doom so you left him out so it would not be one sided.


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I'm going to say Wonder Woman,


She does have the advantage of, to my knowledge, never having a breakdown and turning evil, which is common among the Super set.

Thor's up there. Batman, unless you count 'retreating from his friends and family into the Bat persona' against him (it says something that when he snaps, he does so in the direction of becoming more focused on fighting crime).


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