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Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

Meh. Instead of making a BZ and not having people show up or make up excuses for either side I decided to just make it a VS thread. If someone makes the BZ down the line then thats fine.

Thor (Odinson) vs Gladiator (Kallark)

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-Strength

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)

-Blasting Power

-Raw Speed

-Combat Speed

-Durability

-Damage Soak

-Combat Smarts

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement

Who wins??


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Give me 4 hours and I will start by posting a scan...I'm at work. Rage can either match it or surpass it...doesn't matter.


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-Strength: Thor.

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir ): Thor, no contest.

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir): Wash.

-Blasting Power: Thor, no contest.

-Raw Speed: Gladiator.

-Combat Speed: Gladiator.

-Durability: Thor.

-Damage Soak: Thor, no contest.

-Combat Smarts: Wash generally.

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement: Thor

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Give me 4 hours and I will start by posting a scan...I'm at work. Rage can either match it or surpass it...doesn't matter.
alright. thumb up


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Re: Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

-Strength. Gladiator

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir ) Thor

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir) Gladiator

-Blasting Power Thor no contest

-Raw Speed Gladiator no contest

-Combat Speed Gladiator no contest

-Durability Gladiator he took a full blast from vulcan without even flinching and no damage what so ever.

-Damage Soak thor because of his hammer

-Combat Smarts Thor


Thor wins 6/10


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-Strength- Thor

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )-Thor

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)- glads

-Blasting Power-Thor

-Raw Speed- glads

-Combat Speed-glads

-Durability-wash

-Damage Soak- Thor

-Combat Smarts-Thor

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement- ???

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Re: Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

Strength - Even mostly. Thor's beyond him when we consider stuff like Warrior Madness.

Striking Power (With Mjolnir ) - Thor.

Striking Power (Without Mjolnir) - Even mostly.

Blasting Power - Thor.

Raw Speed - Gladiator. If this means flight speed, then they're even probably, both can fly many times faster than light so ultimately irrelevant.

Combat Speed - Gladiator.

Durability - Even mostly.

Damage Soak - Edge to Thor.

Combat Smarts - Even mostly, edge to Thor because his proven to be very resourceful. Still, considering the scope of Thor's abilities and what he doesn't use Gladiator should win by default but that's a flawed assessment imo.

Great Hyperbolic Statements - Thor.

Keep in mind that all of these answers are likely to change when idiots come in and start lowballing Thor while simultaneously stroking Gladiator. When that happens, I'll have no choice but to use the Odinson's best.


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-Strength. Gladiator

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir ) Thor

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir) Gladiator

-Blasting Power Thor no contest

-Raw Speed Gladiator no contest

-Combat Speed Gladiator no contest

-Durability Gladiator he took a full blast from vulcan without even flinching and no damage what so ever.

-Damage Soak thor because of his hammer

-Combat Smarts Thor


Thor wins 6/10


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-Durability Gladiator he took a full blast from vulcan without even flinching and no damage what so ever.


And Thor has taken blasts from Surfer etc. without damage.

If we start comparing energy durability feats, Thor would win, his tanked attacks from Skyfather level entities and above etc. I think putting them as even is the most fair assessment as on average, they'd be peers physically.

If someone had to pick a winner based on feats, Thor should be the answer. Tbf, in the past, Gladiator was more invulnerable but even that might not be the case anymore.


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Fail thread.

A-list character with his own comic and 40+ years of history plus countless guest appearances vs second string Superman clone with no comic of his own and only a handful of appearances since his creation.

Thor wins.


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Gladiator didn't have a scratch after being hit head on from an attack that had enough power to shed a solar system. Nova bounced off Gladiator chest like he was a twig. Gladiator flew through Binary blast. You know, the same Binary that made a Sun go Super Nova. Gladiator stood in one spot and withstood an attack from a Centurian without even flinching. Gladiator laughed at human torch going Nova on him. Gladiator withstood a beating from Tyrant which included a full powered eye blast. Gladiator swam through stars. A blast from Masterson bounced off his chest like it was being shot from Jubilee.

Gladiator durability is more impressive if we use "average" showings.


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Fail thread.

A-list character with his own comic and 40+ years of history plus countless guest appearances vs second string Superman clone with no comic of his own and only a handful of appearances since his creation.

Thor wins.


erm oh yeah who would ever consider arguing about this? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t556976.html

Kids these days.


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Gladiator having limited appearances doesn't give him an excuse as to why he's not "as good" as Thor. He had plenty of instances and showings and opportunities to prove where he stands in the Marvel hierarchy, whether he has to be in an ongoing or not. And he's proved exactly where he stands and it's not on the same level as Thor.

There's plenty of people with limited showings and comics out there as compared to Thor and they've got the stuff to justify beating him in a fight.


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By that logic characters with substantially less Showings than Thor ,like Thanos, would lose 10/10 to him. Considering Thor's top feats are>Thanos'. Unaided of course.


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Gladiator didn't have a scratch after being hit head on from an attack that had enough power to shed a solar system.


Half a System, don't intend to be nitpicking, it's just a major difference.

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Gladiator flew through Binary blast. You know, the same Binary that made a Sun go Super Nova.


When did this happen? She was able to stabilize our Sun by opening up a white hole to eat up the corrupting anti-matter but the process nearly burned her out.

I'm just curious. That binary feat was one of his best showings, although I don't think she was at a 100% due to powering up the ship. Need to double check that.

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Gladiator withstood a beating from Tyrant which included a full powered eye blast.


Now you're going too far. He didn't withstand the beating, he was knocked the f*cked out in two attacks:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/77...082271obpo5.jpg

What on Earth makes you think that blast contained all the power that Tyrant could produce?

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Gladiator swam through stars.


The one time I've seen him swim through a Star, it pushed his invulnerability to the limit and he was in extreme pain, not the best example to use as Thor has been in a similar environment without any discomfort.

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A blast from Masterson bounced off his chest like it was being shot from Jubilee.


It should be noted that Gladiator was hurt, Masterson had serious problems controlling Mjolnir's energy projection around that time.

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Gladiator durability is more impressive if we use "average" showings.


Not really.


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Gladiator having limited appearances doesn't give him an excuse as to why he's not "as good" as Thor. He had plenty of instances and showings and opportunities to prove where he stands in the Marvel hierarchy, whether he has to be in an ongoing or not. And he's proved exactly where he stands and it's not on the same level as Thor.

There's plenty of people with limited showings and comics out there as compared to Thor and they've got the stuff to justify beating him in a fight.
gladiator has been shown to be superior to juggernaut where thor has been at best equal/or inferior to juggernaut...hence glad is more durable and stronger than thor

thor still may be more powerful overall due to Mjolnir though


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gladiator has been shown to be superior to juggernaut where thor has been at best equal/or inferior to juggernaut...hence glad is more durable and stronger than thor

thor still may be more powerful overall due to Mjolnir though


How are people expected to have a discussion when such trolling is going on?


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How are people expected to have a discussion when such trolling is going on?
stop namecalling

thor has never demonstrated superior strength or durability to shrug off jugg's blows as gladiator has. those are areas of gladiator has an advantage over thor...thor has an advantage in others, magic, energy, etc.


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stop namecalling

thor has never demonstrated superior strength or durability to shrug off jugg's blows as gladiator has. those are areas of gladiator has an advantage over thor...thor has an advantage in others, magic, energy, etc.
Its only canon comic feats. No non canon cartoons.


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Its only canon comic feats. No non canon cartoons.
I still think we can use those as evidence indicative of characters, the cartoon did not distort characters according to my knowledge. But you're the thread creator, so I will respect your wishes.


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