Hey guys, do you think that any non-abstract being, Marvel or otherwise, can defeat a Celestial one on one? Let's say Arishem just for ease of use, as Tiamut, Scathan, and Exitar seem to be hard to quantify.
It wasn't just Defalco. That garbage could have easily been retconned. Hickman took that sh|t and ran with it during his tenure on the FF. That hyperspace weakness is now set in stone.
Regarding this thread anyone with hyperspace powers like Invisible Woman (ex : Super Skrull) can one/two shot a Celestial.
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Because there's dozens of abstract level beings that aren't actually abstracts that would wreck Arishem (e.g. Mxy, MJJ, Lucifer, Michael, MoD, HoM Wanda, Doom, etc.)
If you're limiting it to below abstract level, then you're going to have a more difficult time finding anyone, since Celestials are generally considered to be the tier just below abstract. It would be like asking if any Skyfather could beat Odin (which would be difficult, since Odin is generally considered the top of the tier so anyone above him would be >Skyfather).
So if you mean any non-abstract, then yes there are dozens.
If you mean non-abstract level, then you're reduced to weakness exploitation (e.g. Sue)
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