Wolverine dropped a bunch of kids in the savage land and made them track him. It's a questionable choice as a overall leader. He is more interesting than cyclops but not better as a leader of his people, a team of mutants or even a Pee wee hockey team.
logan has proven a better teacher and guide. making mutant kids be all they can be and inheriting xavier's mantle. people criticized his transition into this role, but it seemed quite natural to me, considering his historical development. besides, he has always played the role of menthor/father figure in some manner: shadowcat, rogue, jubilee, armor
cyclops has proven an unflinching militant leader uncompromisingly committed to his people, thus inheriting magneto's mantle. funny thing was I hated when this development first began, because I viewed him as a poor mans magneto. but now thats all been said and done, I'm rather pleased with it. he isnt mags, he has grown into his own role and is more interesting than he has ever been.
when logan was the lone rebel and cyke was the boyscout, they
were both cool doing their own things and they're even cooler now that they've matured to replace the characters that embodied the mutant ideological devide and have redefined the gulf between reconciliation and struggle for autonomy.
I, for one, applaude the directions the characters have been taken in and consider neither traitorous or villanous.
Logan has also shown to follow his emotions and gut far too often instead of logic, and often makes questionable and sometimes downright stupid choices and arguments.
Logan: Grrrr, Scott I can't believe you gave those kids the choice to fight for their home!!!
Cyclops: It's their choice. I also gave them the option to leave.
Logan: -starts his own school just to spite Cyclops, then threatens someone on the doorstep using all of them kids as part of that threat-
Logan:Intent on killing Hope or helping the Avengers win just because he doesn't like Scott. He knows Scott is right, still doesn't care.
Logan: Intent on killing Scarlet Witch for M Day, despite it not being even 50% her fault.
Logan: Blaming Scott for all the bad shit that happened when the P5 incident happened, despite knowing that Tony Stark caused the incident in the first place, and that none of them were strong enough to control it. Yet he never blamed Jean for Dark Phoenix.
Logan: Blames Scott for killing Xavier, even though he knows Scott lost control.
Logan: Kicking Psylocke out of the school for being "too violent", when he himself has threatened students on multiple occasions.
The list goes on of how bad a leader Logan actually is. In all honesty if I was in the X-Men or Avengers, I'd rather not even be on a team with Logan much less him him as my leader, field or otherwise.
Wolverine is a better mentor.
He recognizes the abilities of future leaders and shapes them for that role.
Rogue comes first to mind; it was Logan that was her first true "parent" despite their rocky beginning, it was Logan that tested her and made her realize that she was, in fact, best suited to lead the team in the absence of Scott or Ororo, Logan that was honest enough and ego-less enough to encourage her to become what she is now.
Note that this is not a role Cyclops could have easily filled; his tendency, sans Professor X, is to treat other would-be leaders as rivals, threats to his authority, and, in battle situations especially, distractions that could prove lethal.
Scott demands the best of people, and gets it; Logan shows them how to become their best.
I don't think Cyclops has ever really felt threatened by other team leaders. Most of them knew that he was the best guy for the job, and the one time he wasn't, he was being mentally influenced anyway.
logans point was they werent mature enough to decide and should be isolated from conflict by adults
actually, he keeps them on lock up during conflicts, including the one you are mentioning. he used them because the hellfire club are children themselves, which is why he didnt gut them then and there
derp derp he was doing it out of fear the phoenix would destroy the earth. hope asked to be put down for the same reason, which he coulnt bring himself to do,
SW responsabilty was left open as dr doom could have been lying to rehabilitate her in the eyes of her peers.
as per avx consequences, logan acknowledges cyke was not responsible for his actions when it came to the killing, but blames scott for embracing the pf in the first place and turning his back on chucks legacy.
JG gets a double standard treatment, thats true, but she gets it from everybody, including cyke.
they're not serious threats and the kids themselves know this. duh.
none of that says anything about his leadership qualities really, as they don't involve him leading anyone into success or failure.
as for the matter of field leadership. logan is a better tactician, cyclops is a better strategist.
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