I thought I take a little break from Thor vs. Superman stuff and have them merge as one being. To be honest, I appreciate Thor fans for now I respect Thor a lot more than I would have if it wasn't for them. I don't know if the feeling is mutual for Superman though. Anyway I agree that Thor is a bad boy (very powerful indeed) and awesome. So I want to see how far this being can go as defined as follows:
Superman and Thor powers (at their quantifiable best) of
Strength (stacked), Durability(stacked), Speed and reflexes (including the ability to vibrate intangible) stacked, Freeze breath, Pressure point ability, gifted intelligence, Flight and mobility, having Mjolnir and all of the skills and knowledge Thor has with it, Godblast and Thor's natural lightning powers without Mjolnir, Thor's fighting ability
Fighting in character of
1. Optimal speed and reflexes operating at 75% of the time on average
2. Ability to use any powers at any time regardless of whether it's cheap, will kill instantly, etc. That means Godblast, vibrate, absorb shields and energy, etc.
3. Non holding back, no remorse for killing but calm thinking effective killer.
This merged character runs the following gauntlet and is restored after each battle. How far does Thor-EL gets?
1. Kurse
2. Current Mangog
3. Ultron
4. Thanos (pre Imperative)
5. Destroyer (animated by a random human)
6. Odin (can't change Mjolnir enchantment or stop time)
7. King Thor (can't interfere with time or change Mjolnir enchantment)
8. RKT (can't interfere with time or change Mjolnir enchantment)
9. Galactus (100% speed and reflexes against him)
10. Arishem (100% speed and reflexes against him which knowledge of hyperspace energy as weakness)
Yah, I don't See Thor-El trashing a skyfather of Odin's level. Odin should be above King Thor imo. RKT is in right spot though.
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Remember this character is operating at their best ever shown (quantifiable levels though).
Remember this character is not fighting with the mindset of neither Superman or Thor. But is able to do any tactic at any time (intangibility, Godblast, absorbing someones' shielding or energy blasts, making Mjolnir go remote control, bfr, etc).
Classic Odin was far more powerful than regular King Thor. Way more feats and power level examples.
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I disagree. King Thor's feat against the Destroyer trumps almost anything Odin has done. Also King Thor's feat of time manipulation trumps any time feat made by Odin. Plus you can't argue against
Wrong. King Thor was not above Classic Odin levels. Do you even know anything about Classic Odin? Rune King Thor is the only Thor that could be placed above Odin IMO..
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Classic Odin and current Odin are the same character if I'm not mistaken. Thus King Thor has classic Odin's power by default.
It's like saying WWH is weaker than Savage Hulk since Savage Hulk did shit greater than WWH did. But we all know that WWH is the strongest Hulk has ever been since that time. That means he keeps Savage Hulk's feats.
Wrong. King Thor never showed the amount of power that Odin had. Also, Thor wouldn't have the centuries of knowledge of the Odinforce that Odin had. He struggled at times with stuff Odin would laugh off.
I take King Thor for what he was, a very powerful being who was an Odin-lite. The only thing I'll give King Thor was he was perhaps more powerful a melee fighter than Odin. That's about it.
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Odin removes Thor's worthyness. Hammer falls to the ground. Thor-El looks at Odin in surprise. Then he gets put down before his brain processed what happened.
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Yah. I agree. He doesn't make it past Odin. And Odin is still in wrong spot..
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King Thor surpassed Odin in power output but not in effects. Odin may have knew more spells and can achieve more effects than King Thor but his power output wasn't higher.
Remember what King Thor did to Destroyer, Cap's shield, Logan's adamantium is beyond Odin.
In some circumstances Odin one shot koes Surfer (not kill), fail to do much to Thanos in the beginning, etc.
Most beings who are not as durable as Destroyer or Cap's shield that Odin blasts are either koed or not koed. Huge power difference.
Yes, it was. King Thor never displayed REMOTELY the power that Odin has. King Thor had a few good feats sprinkled in here and there, but everything he did Odin could match and more. Um, No. King Thor Disintegrated Captain America THROUGH his shield with eye beams and pretty much did the same to Logan. Odin could have done that without thinking. The only 2 feats that you can even argue are if Odin could throw Mjolnir with enough force to ko the Destroyer like King Thor did (Which Thor even admits on panel that ODIN'S POWER in the face of evil could do), and if Odin could PHYSICALLY dent Captain America's shield. I'm inclined to believe he could but let's for argument sake say no, Odin wasn't the physical brute Thor is. Fine. It doesn't mean that Thor is more powerful. It just means that he's more physical. Surtur, Seth, Infinity etc, etc. Beings Odin has tangled with and defeated, are all above the Destroyer (whom Odin made btw), Thanos, Surfer etc... Odin is above and beyond King Thor on every conceivable category except possibly raw strength.
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Jun 16th, 2013 04:47 AM
Um, No. King Thor Disintegrated Captain America THROUGH his shield with eye beams and pretty much did the same to Logan. Odin could have done that without thinking. The only 2 feats that you can even argue are if Odin could throw Mjolnir with enough force to ko the Destroyer like King Thor did (Which Thor even admits on panel that ODIN'S POWER in the face of evil could do), and if Odin could PHYSICALLY dent Captain America's shield. I'm inclined to believe he could but let's for argument sake say no, Odin wasn't the physical brute Thor is. Fine. It doesn't mean that Thor is more powerful. It just means that he's more physical. Surtur, Seth, Infinity etc, etc. Beings Odin has tangled with and defeated, are all above the Destroyer (whom Odin made btw), Thanos, Surfer etc... Odin is above and beyond King Thor on every conceivable category except possibly raw strength.
