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Colossus with Mjolnir vs. Thor bare

I had a dream last night that Thor, seeking a challenge, gave Colossus his hammer to fight him.

Classic Colossus gets Mjolnir and has access only to its throwing, flying, and hitting abilities. That means he can strike with it any kind of way, take flight, and call it back. He can't affect the weather or anything else. He would use it mostly to strike and throw and not so much cheesy remote control stuff.

Thor has to fight bare handed with no lightning powers or anything else.
Thor cannot lift Mjolnir nor can he access it in any way.
Fight starts 20 feet away on a featureless environment.

Who wins?


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Does colossus have experience with it? Like is he skilled with it or os he just swinging an throwing it around


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Thor. Interesting thread though.


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Re: Colossus with Mjolnir vs. Thor bare

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I had a dream last night that Thor, seeking a challenge, gave Colossus his hammer to fight him.

U sure do have a lot of comic book dreams.

It's a wonder u don't have much that involve threesomes with Supergirl and Sif. Or Maybe Wondy and Ms. Marvel. Or better yet Gamora and Starfire...


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If it comes to close combat thor wins, but if colossus keeps him at bay he can win if he can wear him down


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Thor wins; even with Mjolnir, the strength gap is still far too large imo.


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Colossus is skilled with it. I don't think the strength gap is that large in terms of Colossus durability vs Thor's punching strength.
Colossus has been hit my many Herald level strength beings. Thor is not going to one or two shot him. Not even close. Even Hulk said (in WWH) that he was a worthy opponent before (to Savage Hulk).

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Colossus has Thor's skills with throwing the hammer. Swinging it for a strike doesn't take much skill.


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Yes ino it doesnt take much skill, but if he cant weild it efficiently then hes not gonna be able to do much with it but since hes skilled, then if it comes close quarters he could stand a chance if he keeps thor at bay he could wear him down gradually


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Colossus is skilled with it. I don't think the strength gap is that large in terms of Colossus durability vs Thor's punching strength.
Colossus has been hit my many Herald level strength beings. Thor is not going to one or two shot him. Not even close. Even Hulk said (in WWH) that he was a worthy opponent before (to Savage Hulk).

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Colossus has Thor's skills with throwing the hammer. Swinging it for a strike doesn't take much skill.


I could close this for spite, and neither mod would complain.

There's at least something of a substantial gap. Colossus having the hammer helps, sure, but it's not a miracle worker.


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I could close this for spite, and neither mod would complain.

There's at least something of a substantial gap. Colossus having the hammer helps, sure, but it's not a miracle worker.
I understand. But durability plays a role too. And Colossus has flight and can throw the hammer at Thor from a distance.

so how do you feel Namor and Thor would fare in h2h?
Many believe Namor can hold is own against a bare Thor but will eventually lose. .

Thing is able to hang with Namor in strength on a consistent basis.
Colossus is probably superior to Thing has beaten the Hulk in a fight before. Colossus has gone toe to toe with Gladiator (created initially to be a Superman clone for marvel).

Colossus is no slouch. Of course he's not on Thor's level but I don't see Thor blowing him out of the water considering his feats against physical peers.


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Colossus' fight against Gladiator was before Kallark was shown to be an elite top tier...in fact IIRC Colossus ended up being KO'd by a falling building.


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Colossus' fight against Gladiator was before Kallark was shown to be an elite top tier...in fact IIRC Colossus ended up being KO'd by a falling building.
But it's still canon. Also we have the fact that Gladiator was created to be Superman's equal. A Superman clone for marvel. At the time marvel wanted to show how well Colossus could do with Superman.

Colossus has strength feats of lifting tankers weighing at least 10,000 tons. He has beaten Hulk in a fight, overpowered Magneto, and has other feats to show he can at least hang with Thor in h2h for a while before losing.

Ulik, who is around Colossus level has hung with Thor (with Mjolnir) on multiple occasions.

Using Mjolnir gives him ranged attacks, flight, and amps his striking considerably. Let's not forget that Colossus has decent blunt force durability.


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Thor wins; even with Mjolnir, the strength gap is still far too large imo.


Don't agree. Having Thor hammer would give Colossus a strength increase. Lets use Storm as an example. The hammer changed her to the point that she was able to fight evenly against Thor. Giving Colossus the hammer would do the same thing.


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I understand. But durability plays a role too. And Colossus has flight and can throw the hammer at Thor from a distance.

so how do you feel Namor and Thor would fare in h2h?
Many believe Namor can hold is own against a bare Thor but will eventually lose. .

Thing is able to hang with Namor in strength on a consistent basis.
Colossus is probably superior to Thing has beaten the Hulk in a fight before. Colossus has gone toe to toe with Gladiator (created initially to be a Superman clone for marvel).

Colossus is no slouch. Of course he's not on Thor's level but I don't see Thor blowing him out of the water considering his feats against physical peers.


Don't use ABC logic, please.

Namor is above both Thing and Colossus, so the point is moot anyway.

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Don't agree. Having Thor hammer would give Colossus a strength increase. Lets use Storm as an example. The hammer changed her to the point that she was able to fight evenly against Thor. Giving Colossus the hammer would do the same thing.


Who says Colossus is being amped?


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The hammer amps you to Thor levels.

It's basically Thor hammer less vs Metal Slower Thor with Mjolnir

Though that type of shit usually gives Thor DYNAMIC STRENGTH, but still


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I didn't know that. Really should have been specified in the OP.


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It's never been shown to stack, but it's a good bet you're at basic Thor level if you're holding it

He who holds this hammer shall be granted the power of Thor or whatever the dick it says.

EDIT: Colossus gets the Loki treatment if he doesn't get Thor's strength. With it? He still might lose, but it's closer for sure.


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Yea, if he grabs Mjolnir, he'd have basic Thor level stats. Colossus would be pretty much Angrir without the mind control if not even more powerful because Mjolnir's more awesome.

I think on average Colossus should win with such a large boost and the hammer but I can easily see in a comic Thor suddenly relying on speed/skill on wining. Or having one of his heavy metal moments and just pounding him down.

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Ulik, who is around Colossus level has hung with Thor (with Mjolnir) on multiple occasions.


Based on what?


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What? laughing out loud rulk never had thors powers when he beat him nearly to death with it, the only thing it gives you of thors powers is the weather and the op already stated he couldnt do that, he can hit with it, fly with it and throw it


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What? laughing out loud rulk never had thors powers when he beat him nearly to death with it, the only thing it gives you of thors powers is the weather and the op already stated he couldnt do that, he can hit with it, fly with it and throw it
Rulk wasn't worthy. It was gravity exploitation (that still made no sense)

But you're probably a reliable source.


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