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Supernova goes off, what happens?
Supernova goes off (Inspired by the Tsar bomb thread)
The following characters are standing in the first planet closest to the sun when a nova explosion goes off
Thor B&T
WBH
Juggernaut 8th day
Sentry
Human Torch (on fire at max output)
Thanos (Imperative)
Captain Marvel DC (Pre FP)
Gladiator
Superman (Pre FP)
Orion (Pre FP)
Silver Surfer (Annihilation)
Fernus
They can brace but they cannot use any type of shields or phasing their body has to withstand the explosion, body has to be intact, who can do it?
Bonus round
Same characters facing a SUPERNOVA
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Just to give you an idea of what We are talking about
Imagine the Tsar bomb will do nothing to earth
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Last edited by Rao Kal El on Dec 12th, 2013 at 04:35 PM
I can see the vast majority of these characters survive. Also this should'nt cause any kind of critical damage to Kal correct? Perhaps the initial impact of the explosion can cause some disorientation but if anything he would benefit from being at a range that close right?
Eh, most of them have feats to suggest they'd survive and feats suggesting they'd die horribly.
Should be noted, though, that our Sun is not large enough to go supernova. From what my 10 second google search showed, a star would have to be 8-10x larger than ours to go supernova, just for better comparison sake.
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I think they'd almost all survive, but half of them would be unconscious from the blast/debris. The one that I'd be most worried about would be Human Torch. The heat wouldn't be as much of an issue as much as the shockwave, etc, and I'm not certain he's durable enough to withstand that as well as all of the debris from Mercury exploding.
There is a serious lack of Squirrel Girl in the upcoming line-up, son.
He survives it, but the explosion would send him flying away - his suit would get torn apart and his shlong would wave around.
"Weaker versions" have supposedly tanked shots with the might of 1000 suns or something like that and he has taken shots from Celestials before.
He will survive it. His pants will stay untouched of course, as always, since they're one of the most powerful artifacts in the Marvel universe.
I would even go as far to say that he will survive it completely unharmed. Gladiator, whose Heat Vision is supposed to be hotter than the sun managed to burn through Hulk's chest, but it took him time and Hulk immediately started healing back.
World Breaker Hulk should be at a level of regeneration where the energy and the heat shouldn't penetrate his skin faster than he can heal.
Easily takes it and stays unharmed during the process (if he is not jobbing terribly).
High end feats suggest that he might be able to take some of the damage, but he would get harmed badly - to a point, where you could see his bones and so on - from there on he could regenrate back.
At average he gets annihilated by the explosion and re-appears shortly after.
Hyperbole will probably have him at a level, where he could handle it all, but I personally simply don't see it happening :-7 At that point heat wouldn't be his only problem, but more so the destructive energy levels.
Takes it easily, but I kinda don't see his battle armor taking all of the damage - it should get destroyed for the most part.
To my knowledge he never encountered such a level of destruction. If he truly is Superman's equal, he should be able to tank the damage.
I personally would say that he wouldn't be able to absorb the damage and would get hurt badly, maybe even killed. But maybe that's also because I'm not aware of his best durability feats.
See above - same with Captain Marvel.
Tanks it, but gets knocked out.
He has taken supernovas to the face - one of them was supposedly 50 times more powerful than a regular supernova.
One supernova and him not being THAT near the explosion should even keep his suit in tact.
There is literally nothing I know about that character. I was never into the New Gods.
It's Silver Surfer. He had to deal with stuff like that before by simply surfing around I guess :-|
The explosion would blow him away, but I could see him staying conscious.
Martian Manhunter never struck me as someone, who has a Superman level durability. What makes him hard to beat is his healing factor / his regeneration.
The amped up Martian Manhunter = Fernus ... damn, dunno, could go either way IMO.
IMPORTANT: Take all of that with a grain of salt :-| It's just my perception of the durability (at best) of the character. I could be wrong... it happened once before, so keep it cool.
I pretty much agree with this 95%. Except I dont think anyone here is totally unharmed. And Torch dies. Absolutely. Everytime. I personall would like to see all of these characters at a powerlevel where they die from this explosion but thats just me.
Last edited by ShadowFyre on Dec 12th, 2013 at 05:07 PM
There are 4 things that job MIGHTILY in comics :
1) TP. It never works even though it should be an auto win against a non telepath
2) Black Holes. This one doesn't need explanation.
3) Stars (this includes them going nova). For some reason, being punched by Hulk or Thor causes more Heralds harm than an exploding star.
4) Transmutation. HTF isn't this an autowin? People have their MOLECULES turned to salt or sand and still their "healing factor" cures them. HOW?!
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If he was fighting off the effect as it was transforming him, I'd have no problem with that. It's when the person succumbs completely and they are already fully transmuted to another substance, like stone, sand, salt, whatever, and THEN revert back due to 'healing factor' or similar reason that makes no phucking sense.
I mean their MOLECULES are now inorganic matter. How would a healing factor function since they aren't even organic anymore? So much fail in comics. It's actually aggravating just thinking about it.
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I would like to point out that Supes never took a 50x supernova to the face: http://i.imgur.com/asxKmH4.jpg
The absolute most you could argue is that he withstood the electromagnetic shockwave generated by the explosion-- but the radiation itself(the particularly dangerous part of the blast) never actually touched him before he was saved. If it had, Supes would have been "incinerated."
That said, I do believe he can survive a supernova. He's certainly not going to tank it, mind you... But he would survive.
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As for Torch, it's like others have said: the heat wouldn't hurt him(he's withstood Planck temperature, after all), but the shockwaves/planetary debris and so forth would probably kill him.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Dec 12th, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Maaaan. Big phucking ditto on "healing factors" reversing the effects of transmutation. Only of slightly lessor annoyance is a person resisting powerful TP via "will power" or "rage". I've always thought of powerful tp as complete domination of a victims neurons etc. WTF does "will power" have to do with countering that?
As for black holes and exploding stars etc. If I were editor in chief @ Marvel or DC, no one short or skyfather is surviving shit like that unless they have some sort of power set advantage. It just phucks up any of the suspension of disbelief limits that I have reserved for comic book entertainment.
Last edited by dmills on Dec 12th, 2013 at 05:48 PM