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They fight without powers... Part 2

As in Part 1, these are cage fight matchups, no prep, all combatants are completely de-powered. So if they had super strength or durability they have the strength, durability, & speed of a regular human of their size, build, and fitness.

Who wins?

1) Reed Richards vs Peter Parker

2) Pym vs Banner

3) Jessica Drew vs Sue Richards

4) Lois & Jimmy vs Xavier (wheelchair) & Emma Frost

5) Cage vs Aquaman

6) Ben Grimm vs Clark Kent

7) Hal Jordan vs Kyle Rayner

8) Scarlet Witch vs Wasp

Feb 7th, 2014 05:32 PM

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1) Peter

2) Pym. Tossup maybe?

3) Jessica Drew

4) Lois & Jimmy

5) Aquaman

6) Ben Grimm

7) Hal Jordan. Tossup.

8) Wasp. Tossup though.

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1. Peter
2. Pym
3. Dunno
4. Lois/Jimmy
5. Dunno
6. Clark
7. Hal. Kyle's more passive, brawling wouldn't be his thing.
8. Dunno

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1) Peter Parker

2) Hank "Judo" Pym

3) Sue Richards

4) Lois & Jimmy

5) Aquaman

6) Ben Grimm

7) Hal Jordan

8) Wasp

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1.Peter Parker
2.Hank Pym
3.I'm leaning towards Sue
4.Xavier is the weak link but I'm certain that Emma can take them
5.Leaning towards Cage
6.Ben Grimm
7.Hal wins but Kyle gives him a fight
8.Wasp

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Interesting.

So up for debate:
Sue/Drew
Aquaman/Cage
Grimm/Clark

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Interesting.

So up for debate:
Sue/Drew
Aquaman/Cage
Grimm/Clark

Yeah, Parker, Pym and Wasp seem to dominate. Lois and Jimmy have the advantage. As for the others...

Drew/Sue both have some skills but I would think that Drew has a lot more training.

Aquaman & Cage should both be tough guys.

Grimm is a boxer. But Clark must have some experience and he
would be a pretty big guy.

Feb 9th, 2014 12:32 PM

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7. Hal. Kyle's more passive, brawling wouldn't be his thing.

After he first got his butt kicked by Fatality, Kyle went to his then-girlfriend Donna Troy for HtH training and got pretty good at it.

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Yeah, Parker, Pym and Wasp seem to dominate. Lois and Jimmy have the advantage. As for the others...

Drew/Sue both have some skills but I would think that Drew has a lot more training.

Aquaman & Cage should both be tough guys.

Grimm is a boxer. But Clark must have some experience and he
would be a pretty big guy.

doesn't Sue have SHIELD espionage training?

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doesn't Sue have SHIELD espionage training?

She's also been trained in h2h by Iron Fist

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After he first got his butt kicked by Fatality, Kyle went to his then-girlfriend Donna Troy for HtH training and got pretty good at it.

Kyle also got training from Batman, and surprised Sinestro with it.

I put Drew down, due to her SHIELD, Taskmaster and HYDRA training (though I don;t rate the Hydra training as much).

I put Aquaman down due to his Atlantean armed forces training.

Grimm because he was a high school wrestler, then street fighter, than presumably got some training in the air force. Not to mention unlike Clark, he fights more as a brick without speed tricks/flight etc helping him.

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I put Aquaman down due to his Atlantean armed forces training.

Grimm because he was a high school wrestler, then street fighter, than presumably got some training in the air force. Not to mention unlike Clark, he fights more as a brick without speed tricks/flight etc helping him.

Cage was raised as a street fighter and was also trained by Iron Fist

Didn't Clark learn Kryptonian martial arts and get training in h2h by Batman?

Feb 9th, 2014 05:44 PM

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Cage was raised as a street fighter and was also trained by Iron Fist

Didn't Clark learn Kryptonian martial arts and get training in h2h by Batman?

Yeah, Clark did, but IMO he would rely a lot more on his speed, which would be negated here.

I wouldn't be too upset if someone said Cage won, to be honest. It's pretty close.

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Yeah, Kal has beaten actual martial artists like Kobra when stripped of his powers.

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Yeah, Kal has beaten actual martial artists like Kobra when stripped of his powers.

And has also been embarrassed by martial artists.

Cassius Clay being one of them.

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And has also been embarrassed by martial artists.

Cassius Clay being one of them.

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And has also been embarrassed by martial artists.

Cassius Clay being one of them.

You know his real name is Mahommad Ali! mad

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